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Rand Paul does support AZ Illegal Immigration Law

I love how everyone on both sides is trying to split the fucking movement over this. Shame if the revolution implodes because you people won't stop bickering.
 
I love how everyone on both sides is trying to split the fucking movement over this. Shame if the revolution implodes because you people won't stop bickering.

Danno was spreading misinformation about this last week and Rand Paul just cleared up any doubts anyone had on where he stands on this! It's not about splitting up anybody, it's about getting the CORRECT information out there!
 
Danno was spreading misinformation about this last week and Rand Paul just cleared up any doubts anyone had on where he stands on this! It's not about splitting up anybody, it's about getting the CORRECT information out there!

This whole debate in general is unproductive for the movement. If we win, and end the drug war and shrink the welfare state, the problem disappears. You all risk that future by fighting over what to do in the interim.
 
The AZ immigration law is less about the war on drugs and more about defending the borders of a soveriegn nation against an illegal invasion.

I lean libertarian pretty hard but i do not understand the argument with this legislation. It implicitly says that they cannot racially profile in the bill. I support the AZ immigration law. If the federal government would do it's damn job, AZ wouldn't have to worry about protecting it's soveriegn borders.
 
in the Great Depression there were anti-hobo anti-loitering laws...
if arizona wants a fair but har~d!a$$ life and tymes of judge roy bean
reputation as a place sometimes not to visit, its got it. rand paul
is correct in that they can ask greatly of their law enforcement people
yet we must balk at the idea of military tibunals greatly worse than
sec' of war stanton's all over our frontier landscape writ greatly...
 
The AZ immigration law is less about the war on drugs and more about defending the borders of a soveriegn nation against an illegal invasion.

I lean libertarian pretty hard but i do not understand the argument with this legislation. It implicitly says that they cannot racially profile in the bill. I support the AZ immigration law. If the federal government would do it's damn job, AZ wouldn't have to worry about protecting it's soveriegn borders.

It also says explicitly that you can be arrested without a warrant on suspicion of being here illegally (a removable offense). This is separate from arrests and detainment stemming from lawful contact.

I'm not going to re-argue the whole thing. I can only represent my own opinion of it, and Rand can only represent his. The debate is pretty moot anyhow, because both sides are merely distracting one another while e-verify, RealID, and work-eligibility cards become the norm.

In the meantime, the borders are unprotected, so those deported will just come back and start the whole thing again since the biggest incentives to come here illegally are still in place. The more dangerous folks are not waiting to be stopped and asked for their ID, anyhow; they are "shoot first" types.
 
My understanding is that the law has now been changed so the person not only has to be stopped for something else, race CANNOT be a factor in the determination of reasonable suspicion. I haven't read it, but if he really gave a clean 'yes', he must have. His web site addresses the principles he is in favor of, but doesn't say whether the Az law addresses those. I had the distinct impression he wasn't familiar enough with it to say.
 
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