Programming Humans

[InterestedParticipant]

YouTube - Monarch: Chapter 3B: MKULTRA 1953

 

[InterestedParticipant]

I wonder if people understand just how pervasive this is....

YouTube - Monarch: Chapter 4A: MKULTRA 1960-1970's

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Modern circumcision = early trauma

 

[Andrew-Austin]

If you recognize the picture in my avatar, you will know that I am especially qualified to speak on the subject of mind control.


There are five easier ways to get people to do what you want:
-pay them
-blackmail them
-trick them
-use propaganda to convince them
-tempt them with power

Its certainly easier than combining rape, electroshock, starvation, sleep deprivation, subliminal messages, and psychotic drugs over a long period of years. Honestly it sounds like they were just screwing around with various pseudo-scientific theories to see what they could come up with, and I'm betting the end results were not all that useful or practical, spawning only mental illnesses in the victim and no practical implementation of mind control. I already know subliminal messaging is nonsense.

It has been fifty years, any definitive mentions of the success or failure of MKUltra? When it comes to this subject, I have only ever seen conspiracy theorists point towards 40-50 year old sources that speak only of experiments. You would think if they succeeded, there would be some real world evidence, a document or something we can look at to confirm their success.
I can experiment all I want with the limitless funds of a government organization trying to come up with a potion that allows people to fly, but if its not possible I'm not going to get anywhere. And when you think about it, its really not beyond a government organization to fuck around with tax payers dollars for ten to twenty years on a bunch of nonsense, it is just another black hole among many that money disappears in to.. There is nothing special about the CIA, they too can be just another bumbling bureaucracy, capable of great evils but still more prone to failure than success. This was probably just another rocket race to no where... The CIA probably realized Nazi and Soviet scientists were fucking around trying to accomplish mind control, freaked out at the prospect, and wasted money chasing any pseudo-scientific theory in order to beat the enemy to the finish line.

 

[coyote_sprit]

We should design a "programming language" of key words to use in order to trick people to do what we want or just read a book on propaganda.

 

[InterestedParticipant]

If you recognize the picture in my avatar, you will know that I am especially qualified to speak on the subject of mind control.


There are five easier ways to get people to do what you want:
-pay them
-blackmail them
-trick them
-use propaganda to convince them
-tempt them with power

Its certainly easier than combining rape, electroshock, starvation, sleep deprivation, subliminal messages, and psychotic drugs over a long period of years. Honestly it sounds like they were just screwing around with various pseudo-scientific theories to see what they could come up with, and I'm betting the end results were not all that useful or practical, spawning only mental illnesses in the victim and no practical implementation of mind control. I already know subliminal messaging is nonsense.

What do you think one of the primary reasons for 9-11 was, eh? What was the purpose of that trauma event?

The technique are from this research are alive and well, albeit in much more sophisticated and subtle forms.

May I suggest people checkout Zbigniew Brzezinski's book, The Technetronic Era? Just what do you think Brzezinski is talking about when he discusses Technetronics?

 

[sevin]

What do you think one of the primary reasons for 9-11 was, eh? What was the purpose of that trauma event?

If 9/11 was an inside job, I don't think it would have taken decades of scientific research to realize that an attack on the WTC would make most of the public go along with a war in the middle east.

 

[ramallamamama]

Thanks for starting this thread IP. I was following the controlled opposition thread very closely.

I've thought for years that we live in a world of illusion.

I've had a deep distrust of authority from a very early age so it was easy to not believe any of the official stories. I have intuitively understood that much of our reality is manufactured to manipulate the masses. I just don't have the jargon to effectively describe it to myself or others.

I to try to realize the underlying dialectics that you spoke of in the other thread. Many are plain as day, while most are many levels deep and overlapping. It's a real exercise, the more I do it the easier it gets. I could still use some tutoring on the subject. There are a few on this board including myself that would appreciate a few more case studies, macro and micro, that would help to get us to shift our thought process in the required direction.

I haven't had a chance to watch the vids you posted above yet, I will. I'm well into the Curtis works.

Thanks again, IP.

 

[InterestedParticipant]

If 9/11 was an inside job, I don't think it would have taken decades of scientific research to realize that an attack on the WTC would make most of the public go along with a war in the middle east.

Everything is an inside job. Everything!

War in the M.E. is just one outcome. The bigger outcome is how trauma impacts the human brain. If you study the MKULTRA work, you will find that it creates a window for new programming. That was 9/11's most important purpose, to implant new programming in order to achieve the next steps in the plan (ie. The Great Work).

Trauma based mind control create dissociative identity disorder (DID). That is what has been perpetrated on the population in mass. It's very difficult to see if you are affected by it, the walls are invisible. To break out one almost needs to experience another trauma event where the post-trauma programming is not controlled by the same perpetrators.

 

[ramallamamama]

Jonestown. Micro.

N Korea. Macro.

 

[InterestedParticipant]

Thanks for starting this thread IP. I was following the controlled opposition thread very closely.

I've thought for years that we live in a world of illusion.

I've had a deep distrust of authority from a very early age so it was easy to not believe any of the official stories. I have intuitively understood that much of our reality is manufactured to manipulate the masses. I just don't have the jargon to effectively describe it to myself or others.

I to try to realize the underlying dialectics that you spoke of in the other thread. Many are plain as day, while most are many levels deep and overlapping. It's a real exercise, the more I do it the easier it gets. I could still use some tutoring on the subject. There are a few on this board including myself that would appreciate a few more case studies, macro and micro, that would help to get us to shift our thought process in the required direction.

I haven't had a chance to watch the vids you posted above yet, I will. I'm well into the Curtis works.

Thanks again, IP.

The illusion that is hardest to see is the illusion that is designed and targeted at the audience that one belongs to. It's so easy to see the MSM fakery for someone here, but ask them to point out the fakery being perpetrated on the libertarian crowd and they want you thrown off the forum or threaten you.

It is essential that we transcend ALL the fakery & lies, even those that are directed at us by our so-called idols. Peter Schiff is a great example ... or case study... his stuff is so subtle but so obvious, all at the same time. It's so upsetting to see so many good people who care so much continually get sucked in by those that they think are there to help them and care for them. It's just plain disgusting, and I won't stop calling-it-out no matter how much I am attacked or marginalized.

Distrust of authority and questioning the dialectics is a fantastic place to be. I think it's a very tall mountain to climb to actually stay on top of the illusions that are being spun on the public continuously, for they have a massive machine at their disposal. I would estimate that 10-20% of Global GDP is invested in Social Control. It's just a business to them, and this cost is nothing more than one line item on an Income Statement. Hardly much to invest in order to maintain their level of control.

But to question is to think, and that is really the point of all of my posts. I'm certainly not here to tell you what to think, I just want to make sure that you are constantly challenging yourself and that you are truly creating your OWN opinions, not merely regurgitating others programming, like from groups designed for the target audience that one may fit in to.

If you want more case studies, then I'm more than willing to jump in with my thoughts whenever you wish. Just start a thread and PM me to make sure I know about it, and I'll certainly comment.

 

[ramallamamama]

Thanks for the comment and offer of more insight, Interested Participant.

 

[sevin]

It is essential that we transcend ALL the fakery & lies, even those that are directed at us by our so-called idols. Peter Schiff is a great example ... or case study... his stuff is so subtle but so obvious, all at the same time. It's so upsetting to see so many good people who care so much continually get sucked in by those that they think are there to help them and care for them. It's just plain disgusting, and I won't stop calling-it-out no matter how much I am attacked or marginalized.

This is interesting, but where does it end? Is Ron Paul in on it, as well?

In Caroll Quigley's Tragedy and Hope he mentions that the push for Barry Goldwater back in the 60's was an aberration beyond the elite's control. Perhaps the Ron Paul revolution is the same thing.

I don't see how everything can be an inside job.

 

[paulitics]

The illusion that is hardest to see is the illusion that is designed and targeted at the audience that one belongs to. It's so easy to see the MSM fakery for someone here, but ask them to point out the fakery being perpetrated on the libertarian crowd and they want you thrown off the forum or threaten you.

It is essential that we transcend ALL the fakery & lies, even those that are directed at us by our so-called idols. Peter Schiff is a great example ... or case study... his stuff is so subtle but so obvious, all at the same time. It's so upsetting to see so many good people who care so much continually get sucked in by those that they think are there to help them and care for them. It's just plain disgusting, and I won't stop calling-it-out no matter how much I am attacked or marginalized.
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Ok. Just for shits and giggles, are you saying Peter Schiff is knowingly controlled opposition, or is he just another pawn for some purpose he is unaware of, only to be discarded later?

 

[Acala]

Human beings

Human beings are easily and predictably manipulated without drugs or high technology. They are easily and predictably manipulated because all but an insignificant fraction are driven by fear, anger, hatred, envy, greed, lust, shame, sadness, guilt, and so on. Often these emotions are operating at such a subtle level that they are subconscious- but still powerful enough to easily overwhelm rational thought in most people.

There is a class of human predators that make it their life's work to prey upon this human weakness for their own profit. Any intelligent person who dedicates themselves wholeheartedly to manipulating people can get very good at it. And anyone who dedicates themselves to this manipulative art AND has a good mentor and like-minded cohorts can do amazing things. The victims have very little resistance because they are driven by the subtle dysfunction of their own nervous system. The predators always win and the innocent always lose. It is mere accidents of history that have produced moments in which the light of freedom bobbed to the surface to shine briefly before inevitably being stuffed back down into the depths.

Even if Ron Paul were president and the congress were full of Ron Paul clones and a Constitutional Convention was called and all the representatives were Ron Paul clones, the erosion of the government they created would begin before the ink was even dry on the new Constitution they drafted. Because the human race would still be driven by subtle emotional activity.

The human race is not ready for peace and freedom and no amount of education will make them so. Until each human being individually frees himself from his own emotional bondage, the human race will be unable to break free of social and political bondage.

And this is a tragedy so deep, so old, and so all-encompassing, that to fully understand it is to see the bowels of hell open up and swallow the planet in one gulp before your eyes. It is to see Orwell's boot smashing a human face forever and know in your heart that it is our destiny.

There is one tiny glimmer of hope. But it is so small, and will take so long to have any effect, that it barely seems a hope at all. And you would not believe me even if I told you what it was.

 

[sevin]

There is one tiny glimmer of hope. But it is so small, and will take so long to have any effect, that it barely seems a hope at all. And you would not believe me even if I told you what it was.

Aw, come on. Try me.

 

[InterestedParticipant]

Ok. Just for shits and giggles, are you saying Peter Schiff is knowingly controlled opposition, or is he just another pawn for some purpose he is unaware of, only to be discarded later?

Oh, he knows exactly what he is doing and is promoted in media specifically to perpetrate the deception, otherwise he would be attacked. In other words, he is authorized. While there are plenty of authorized dupes out there, people who are left along because they are too stupid to figure out they are working for the system, there are others who are so crafty that the only explanation can be fore-knowledge of their activity.

I don't know yet if he'll be discarded, but when you play ball with the Devil you should be prepared to get screwed in the end, no matter how sweet the deal appears to be. So, anything is possible with these front-people... they are expendable.

This subject regarding Peter has been discussed before, in at least two other threads. If you want to have that discussion then lets find those other threads and continue it there, as it is not necessarily on topic for this thread.

 

[Acala]

Okay

Aw, come on. Try me.

Meditation practice. It dissolves the emotional reactivity that makes us subject to manipulation. It takes lots of time and lots of work. But it DOES do the job. I don't know anything else that will.

First you do it yourself. Then you help others do it.

And someday, long after we are dead, maybe enough people will do it that the manipulation won't work anymore. And THEN we can be free.

I wish there was an easier, faster way.

This is the only hope that I can see. And it is a pretty slim chance.

 

[Kraig]

And this is a tragedy so deep, so old, and so all-encompassing, that to fully understand it is to see the bowels of hell open up and swallow the planet in one gulp before your eyes. It is to see Orwell's boot smashing a human face forever and know in your heart that it is our destiny.

There is one tiny glimmer of hope. But it is so small, and will take so long to have any effect, that it barely seems a hope at all. And you would not believe me even if I told you what it was.

I agree but I am very curious as to what you think the glimmer of hope is.

 

[FrankRep]

The illusion that is hardest to see is the illusion that is designed and targeted at the audience that one belongs to. It's so easy to see the MSM fakery for someone here, but ask them to point out the fakery being perpetrated on the libertarian crowd and they want you thrown off the forum or threaten you.

It is essential that we transcend ALL the fakery & lies, even those that are directed at us by our so-called idols. Peter Schiff is a great example ... or case study... his stuff is so subtle but so obvious, all at the same time. It's so upsetting to see so many good people who care so much continually get sucked in by those that they think are there to help them and care for them. It's just plain disgusting, and I won't stop calling-it-out no matter how much I am attacked or marginalized.
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Now you're saying that Peter Schiff is Controlled Opposition?