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Palin requires rape victims to pay for kits

jabrownie

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Interesting story I just stumbled across. Anyone else know anything about this one?

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_09/014669.php

September 11, 2008
PALIN AND RAPE-KIT CHARGES.... Responding to the story about Sarah Palin charging rape victims for medical exams, Atrios noted today, "I actually haven't mentioned this story because there were a few details I wasn't quite sure about so I wasn't sure if it's as bad as it sounded."

I was thinking the exact same thing. There just had to be more to this, some exculpatory information that didn't make Palin sound awful. The Anchorage Daily News looked into the matter and, as it turns out, the policy really was that bad.

[Former Gov. Tony Knowles (D)] broke new ground while answering a reporter's question on whether Wasilla forced rape victims to pay for their own forensic tests when Palin was mayor. True, Knowles said.

Eight years ago, complaints about charging rape victims for medical exams in Wasilla prompted the Alaska Legislature to pass a bill -- signed into law by Knowles -- that banned the practice statewide.

"There was one town in Alaska that was charging victims for this, and that was Wasilla," Knowles said

A May 23, 2000, article in Wasilla's newspaper, The Frontiersman, noted that Alaska State Troopers and most municipal police agencies regularly pay for such exams, which cost between $300 and $1,200 apiece.

"(But) the Wasilla police department does charge the victims of sexual assault for the tests," the newspaper reported.

What's more, USA Today reported that the state sponsor of the legislation on rape kits wrote the bill with Wasilla in mind. It was that one small town, in other words, that necessitated statewide legislation to protect rape victims from this absurd fee.

A Palin spokesperson, contacted by USA Today, said the governor "does not believe, nor has she ever believed, that rape victims should have to pay for an evidence-gathering test."

That's good, but there's still the record to deal with. The town of Wasilla had rape victims to pay for their own medical exams during Palin's mayoral tenure, and Palin's hand-picked police chief publicly opposed the state law when it was passed in 2000.

Asked when Palin learned of the policy, and what Palin did to try to change the policy, her spokesperson chose not to respond.

—Steve Benen 3:25 PM
 
in the event that the person asking for the kit was proven to be a fake, this would make sense.

in the event that the rape defendant were found guilty, that doesn't make sense.
 
who do you think should pay for the kits?
police?
taxes?
state?
federal?
hospital?
churches?
the rapist?

Since I believe law enforcement should be paid for collectively, I'll go with taxes. Law enforcement, like defense, cannot be handled on an individual basis (mob rule), therefore taxes are necessary.
 
Uhm if the rapist is found guilty he/she should have to reimburse the victim.
 
I think this was a thread a few days ago. I think that if the victim has insurance then the insurance company should pay the bill.
 

Rlyrly.

Unless you're an unwavering anarchist, I can't imagine an argument against it.

"Law Enforcement" is paid for their time and given equipment to do their job to find and prosecute criminals. If they need rape kits to find and prosecute rapists, they ought to have a stock of them.
 
torts should handle this. there should be a tort case for damages, and the convicted rapist should have to pay. in fact, since torts have a more relaxed standard of evidence, this would be totally fine.

if the rapist is found guilty, he should be buying himself a kit.

however, there needs to be a more to prevent a girl from lying about rape. While it is not politically correct to discuss that, there are plenty of cases where lying about rape goes on, and the current tendency in our court system is that the man is guilty until proven innocent. there are lots of incentives for false accusations in rape, so anything to discourage that is good. at the same time, true rapists need to see justice.
 
Rlyrly.

Unless you're an unwavering anarchist, I can't imagine an argument against it.

"Law Enforcement" is paid for their time and given equipment to do their job to find and prosecute criminals. If they need rape kits to find and prosecute rapists, they ought to have a stock of them.

Obviously I can't say with 100% confidence that private law enforcement/courts would work at least as well as socialized ones, but theres certainly some strong arguments out there to give it a shot. There were private courts/roads in England for a very long time. Medieval Ireland, as well as Iceland to a certain extent were anarchist for thousands of years without any sort of state whatsoever. Ireland was so hard for the English to conquer because they had no central government. Ireland, before they had a State, was probably the most civilized and best place to live in all of Europe.

http://mises.org/story/2423
 
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