PA Canvassing Strategy?

[humanic]

I live in PA and tomorrow I am canvassing my precinct.

In this state, the delegates to the national convention are UNBOUND and elected directly on the primary ballot. The presidential poll is basically meaningless in terms of who gets the Republican nomination, besides the fact that the MSM will pretend it means everything.

The question is: Do I canvass for Ron Paul and give a list of the delegates who support him to those who are interested in supporting him, OR do I NOT identify myself as a Ron Paul supporter and simply canvass for the delegates, saying they support this this and this (Ron Paul's platform), but not identifying them as Ron Paul supporters?

I feel like a lot of people may be biased against Paul for no good reason, but don't understand/care about the delegates, will like his platform, and will just be happy to have an active Republican at their door. I can't help but wonder if this strategy might yield more votes for our delegates.

What do you guys think?

 

[Captain America]

not sure about your question but where in PA are you?

 

[humanic]

not sure about your question but where in PA are you?

Pittsburgh area

 

[LibertyIn08]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=128651

 

[nate895]

Canvass for the delegates, you will have greater success. Many are turned off by the name "Ron Paul."

 

[humanic]

bump

going out for the night, but hoping for some more input to read later!

 

[LibertyIn08]

Canvass for the delegates, you will have greater success. Many are turned off by the name "Ron Paul."

I think depending on the conversation, either has distinct advantages.

 

[Phantom]

Hi humanic

Maybe you should send an e-mail to derby and ask him what he and others did in Missouri.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=1351850&postcount=34

 

[mohnd]

In Bucks County, our plan is to follow the Precinct Leader program to identify RP supporters.

Then we will distribute our delegate list to identified supporters.

We will also do a lit drop and poll worker handouts for what we are now call our "conservative" delegate slate.

Whether that works or not is anyones guess....

Dan

 

[Feelgood]

Hi humanic

Maybe you should send an e-mail to derby and ask him what he and others did in Missouri.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=1351850&postcount=34

Good point. Those that seem to be generating a lot of success, should probably postl\ what they are doing. How they are pitching their arguments etc, so others can emulate their success.

 

[humanic]

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[LibertyIn08]

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How'd it go last night?

 

[brandon]

Hi, I am a delegate candidate in PA's first district. IMO, the best strategy by far is to canvass directly for the delegates. Do not identify the delegates as RP supporters.

In most of the districts in PA the party endorsed delegates are voting Will of the Committee. This means that the local committee men will have a meeting and vote on which candidate the delegates will vote for. Obviously this means McCain. So the endorsed delegates are not pledging to vote for the winner of your district. You can canvass for your delegates and tell people that the delegates are pledging to vote Will of District as opposed to Will of Committee. Many people will see this as a more fair practice and gladly support your delegate list.

Of course, check with the delegate candidates to make sure they are OK with this. Also, you can identify the delegates as a "Pro constitution/Pro life/Pro gun" whatever slate. which issues are important to people in your district?

If someone is a known Ron Paul supporter then of course tell them the delegates are for RP.

When canvassing you can ask some questions first to get a feel of who you are talking too. Ask them if they are happy with McCain. If they are not, ask them who they wanted to win. Based on there reaction use your best judgement to decide if identifying the delegates as RP delegates would be benneficial. Best of luck

 

[brandon]

Also, when you find someone that is enthusiastic about it, try to get some contact info from them. Being that it is still 5 weeks before our primary, alot of people will not remember the delegates (or lose the list) by the time the primary rolls around.

 

[kigol]

Pittsburgh area

 

[Zera]

Wait, so PA's primary is basically choosing national delegates? Whaaa? No bound delegates? Thats so weird.

 

[brandon]

Wait, so PA's primary is basically choosing national delegates? Whaaa? No bound delegates? Thats so weird.

Yes, it is very wierd.

 

[Banana]

Wait, so PA's primary is basically choosing national delegates? Whaaa? No bound delegates? Thats so weird.

Actually, if I am not mistaken, this used to be how they did things for most of primary states. This became unpopular as people had no idea what to expect how delegates would vote and over the time, the primary states revised the rules so delegates would clearly record their presidential candidate preference, or were bound to the candidate, or handpicked by the candidate, or by any other exotic methods.

So, Pennslyvania is actually old-fashioned for doing so.


When I read more about how we used to elect people, the more I'm seeing how we gradually lost our republic, and end up with something a bit more democratic (but not quite direct democracy) consisting mostly of cheerleading and pushing a poll.

 

[brandon]

Actually, if I am not mistaken, this used to be how they did things for most of primary states. This became unpopular as people had no idea what to expect how delegates would vote and over the time, the primary states revised the rules so delegates would clearly record their presidential candidate preference, or were bound to the candidate, or handpicked by the candidate, or by any other exotic methods.

So, Pennslyvania is actually old-fashioned for doing so.


When I read more about how we used to elect people, the more I'm seeing how we gradually lost our republic, and end up with something a bit more democratic (but not quite direct democracy) consisting mostly of cheerleading and pushing a poll.

That's interesting.

I dont really like PA's system too much, even though I think it will benefit us this time around. People vote directly for the national delegates at the polling place on primary day. Often the voters have no idea who they are voting for and just pick the top names on the list. The order of names on the list is determined by a drawing.

Our system puts too much weight on luck. Either you draw a high ballot position and win, or you are SOL. I didnt draw a high position, I am 5th out of 6. Lol, maybe that is why I dont like it.

I prefer a caucus system where the delegates are not bound to any straw polls, etc.

 

[Ball]

What is turnout typically like in PA?

If it's very low, identifying supporters and dragging them to the polls may work better.

Passing out pamphlets identifying a slate of delegates as pro-life, pro-sovereignty, pro-liberty, fiscal conservatism etc. may help. Don't expect people to memorize the names, or remember your visit come voting time. I've done this enough to know that for every 100 people who say they'll vote, 50 won't, and half of the rest will make up their minds at the polls.

You need a brand if you're not going to use Ron's name.