Obama mouthpiece laughs off birth certificate request

[anaconda]

here's what I found on the net about it:


http://tabberone.com/Trademarks/FederalCourt/filing/Default.shtml

If your opponent does not bother to answer the complaint you get to file for a default judgment. This doesn't happen very often so don't waste your time hoping. It's great if the other side never intends to fight it but it has its drawback. The default gives you pretty much what you have requested but it can be a weak victory.

Your opponent has 30 days after the default judgment is entered into the record. The judge's order to enter a default is not a default. The clerk must enter it into the record. Courts basically hate default judgments. If your opponent files a motion to set aside the default within 30 days it is very likely the court will set it aside. The courts use three crtiteria in determining if a default judgment should be set aside:


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so it won't be as big as I first thought, but it would still be huge. could just be a continuation of the delaying tactic, buying more time for them to forge a long-form certificate

lynn

I still don't get it. Don't you have to show up to court? Don't they issue bench warrants for people that do not show up to court? Under this scenario, one could default for their entire lives and never be held accountable. If this tactic works, why didn't the tobacco companies use it? Etc.

 

[torchbearer]

Maybe he was born a girl?

nothing wrong with a sex change. now that he is elected, he should be proud to champion that fact.

 

[pmbug]

... Taitz was held in default for failing ... Yiou can tell she's just copycatting what other attorneys do and doesn't have a clue.

Orly Taitz?

 

[lynnf]

civil vs criminal

I still don't get it. Don't you have to show up to court? Don't they issue bench warrants for people that do not show up to court? Under this scenario, one could default for their entire lives and never be held accountable. If this tactic works, why didn't the tobacco companies use it? Etc.

you don't have to show up for a civil case if you don't care about winning - this is a civil case at this time. bench warrant -- for a criminal case, again, this is civil.

can't defalult for their entire lives, eventually the court will give the win to the other side. for a criminal case, they issue a warrant.

lynn

 

[anaconda]

you don't have to show up for a civil case if you don't care about winning

Then shouldn't there be a court order for Barry to go get the long copy? Isn't that what the plaintiff sought?

 

[Dr.3D]

Seems the court could order the copy. A court order for a copy of a birth certificate would have to be honored wouldn't it?

 

[Bruno]

No surprise (though disappointing) that he laughed this off. Same response as the legit question of marijuana legalization that he laughed off.

 

[lynnf]

repeat

Then shouldn't there be a court order for Barry to go get the long copy? Isn't that what the plaintiff sought?

repeating what was put in message #17 in this thread:

here's what I found on the net about it:


http://tabberone.com/Trademarks/Fede.../Default.shtml

If your opponent does not bother to answer the complaint you get to file for a default judgment. This doesn't happen very often so don't waste your time hoping. It's great if the other side never intends to fight it but it has its drawback. The default gives you pretty much what you have requested but it can be a weak victory.

Your opponent has 30 days after the default judgment is entered into the record. The judge's order to enter a default is not a default. The clerk must enter it into the record. Courts basically hate default judgments. If your opponent files a motion to set aside the default within 30 days it is very likely the court will set it aside. The courts use three crtiteria in determining if a default judgment should be set aside:

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lynn

 

[anaconda]

repeating what was put in message #17 in this thread:

here's what I found on the net about it:


http://tabberone.com/Trademarks/Fede.../Default.shtml

If your opponent does not bother to answer the complaint you get to file for a default judgment. This doesn't happen very often so don't waste your time hoping. It's great if the other side never intends to fight it but it has its drawback. The default gives you pretty much what you have requested but it can be a weak victory.

Your opponent has 30 days after the default judgment is entered into the record. The judge's order to enter a default is not a default. The clerk must enter it into the record. Courts basically hate default judgments. If your opponent files a motion to set aside the default within 30 days it is very likely the court will set it aside. The courts use three crtiteria in determining if a default judgment should be set aside:

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lynn

Well it's official. I am mentally retarded. I still don't get it. Thank you for trying.

 

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

something tells me they won't be laughing much longer!
(although they want to wait another 120 days to produce it in court!)


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=99342

When asked by WND White House correspondent Les Kinsolving why the president, who has pledged transparency in his administration, would not release his long-form birth certificate to establish his constitutional eligibility for office, spokesman Robert Gibbs guffawed in unison with members of the Washington press corps about the concerns of 400,000 petitioners who have demanded it.

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lynn

I have had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Kinsolving on many occasions and he is a true patriot. I am proud that a man who I admire so much is showing the courage to stand up in public and question these jokers about what they want to hide so badly from the American public.

 

[lynnf]

lowest common denominator

Well it's official. I am mentally retarded. I still don't get it. Thank you for trying.

well, I have a hard head and I'll still try.

1. this is a civil case, so no arrest warrants at this time
2. if there was a default, the judge has to approve the plaintiff's motion for the default and it has to be entered into the record before there is a default, and it looks like the defendant has 30 days to contest the default
3. apparently, if the defendant contests the default, the judge is likely to approve the contesting motion rather than allow the default to go on. (that probably applies triple since it involves the President of the US)

if there's anything else that I can explain, let us know specifically what it is that you don't understand.

lynn

 

[lynnf]

what's good for one, is good for another

I have had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Kinsolving on many occasions and he is a true patriot. I am proud that a man who I admire so much is showing the courage to stand up in public and question these jokers about what they want to hide so badly from the American public.

yes, and he also tried to birddog the Bush administration, so he's not just picking on the Bogus POTUS and his gang.

lynn

 

[lynnf]

vote for open government

Open Government Brainstorm


http://opengov.ideascale.com/akira/dtd/3764-4049


Verifying eligibility to be president of the USA


Where is Obama's birth certificate and why is he spending all the money to keep it and his school records sealed?
I have to cough up my BC, my kids' BC's, death certificates... you name it, to navigate the gov't red tape.
So I ask... why doesn't Obama have to? Is Obama above us all?
Is Obama and his ilk 'special' ???
Obama not showing his real BC is a joke. Sorry, a photo-shopped BC won't get me past the DMV lady!!!

Why Is This Idea Important?
This is important because every person who won the presidential election has voluntarily shown his eligibility. Obama has not and is also fighting tooth and nail to have the records kept secret. That is not only non-transparent in spades, it's creepy, sneaky and slimy. Cough up the records! The longer they're hidden, the creepier this admin appears.


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lynn

 

[anaconda]

well, I have a hard head and I'll still try.

1. this is a civil case, so no arrest warrants at this time
2. if there was a default, the judge has to approve the plaintiff's motion for the default and it has to be entered into the record before there is a default, and it looks like the defendant has 30 days to contest the default
3. apparently, if the defendant contests the default, the judge is likely to approve the contesting motion rather than allow the default to go on. (that probably applies triple since it involves the President of the US)

if there's anything else that I can explain, let us know specifically what it is that you don't understand.

lynn

Thank you for the kind response and offer:

1) What happens if Barry doesn't contest an eventual default? But simply avoids the situation.

2) What's to prevent Barry from engaging in a never-ending cycle of: evasion, contesting the default, and receiving an approval thereon. Repeat cycle. This doesn't sound like a very effective court. How is a plaintiff ever to receive justice?

 

[lynnf]

no honor amongst thieves.....

Thank you for the kind response and offer:

1) What happens if Barry doesn't contest an eventual default? But simply avoids the situation.

2) What's to prevent Barry from engaging in a never-ending cycle of: evasion, contesting the default, and receiving an approval thereon. Repeat cycle. This doesn't sound like a very effective court. How is a plaintiff ever to receive justice?

1) he will lose a lot of face, which won't matter with the Obama shills, they will come up with some bs like "well he doesn't have to produce a birth certificate, he's the President!" (believe me, I saw it with Nixon and Clinton). also, the judge could declare Obama ineligible for the office of President, which I doubt they will do without a birth certificate so they just might say they don't have jurisdiction (the usual cop out) so that issue might be handled on appeal

2)nothing to prevent that. evasion has been what they've been doing all along, or haven't you noticed? no, there's no justice, the courts have been corrupted for a long time now, we seem to be getting what we deserve for not taking care of business all these years


lynn

 

[anaconda]

1) he will lose a lot of face, which won't matter with the Obama shills, they will come up with some bs like "well he doesn't have to produce a birth certificate, he's the President!" (believe me, I saw it with Nixon and Clinton). also, the judge could declare Obama ineligible for the office of President, which I doubt they will do without a birth certificate so they just might say they don't have jurisdiction (the usual cop out) so that issue might be handled on appeal

2)nothing to prevent that. evasion has been what they've been doing all along, or haven't you noticed? no, there's no justice, the courts have been corrupted for a long time now, we seem to be getting what we deserve for not taking care of business all these years


lynn

That's what I figured. Let's go after the Federal Reserve, where maybe we can make a difference. Or, let's try to get RP to introduce a bill that says all citizens have standing in matters of the Constitution.

 

[lynnf]

"you can either take this or leave with nothing"

That's what I figured. Let's go after the Federal Reserve, where maybe we can make a difference. Or, let's try to get RP to introduce a bill that says all citizens have standing in matters of the Constitution.

don't put all your eggs in the 1207 basket - legislation has a way of getting thwarted - check out this recent thread on current legislation

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=194536


they have a way of offering you a choice of a watered-down version or ending up with nothing, most take the watered-down version.

lynn