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Nader on 9/11. Nader on Ron Paul.

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Nader on 9/11. Nader on Ron Paul.
The two topics seem unrelated.

On 9/11:


Ralph Nader, the consumer activist and independent presidential candidate, seems to think that the report of the commission assigned to investigate the events of 9-11 should not be the last word.

“There are unanswered questions in the 9-11 investigation, and they should be answered,” Nader said at a recent address at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia. “How do you go from plausibility to evidence? You have a more independent inquiry.”

On the morning of September 11, 2001, airliners collided with each of the twin towers of New York City’s World Trade Center, after which they and a third nearby office building mysteriously collapsed. Other incidents on the same day at the Pentagon and in a field in Pennsylvania were also attributed to aircraft collisions. All were pitched by the government as the result of a terrorist conspiracy, although it is widely believed that the government may have played a direct role in orchestrating the events.


On Ron Paul:


On another topic, Nader had kind words to say for presidential candidate, Ron Paul.

“Ron Paul is very good on foreign policy,” he said. “He’s a refreshing voice.”

Nader also praised Paul for his outspoken opposition to the aggressive U.S. stance against Iran and the so-called ‘war-on-drugs.’

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http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/14/nader-on-911-nader-on-ron-paul/

Ralph Praises Ron
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/020541.html
 
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People on the left like his foreign policy (or pretend they do)

People on the right like his domestic policy (or pretend they do)

Sane people just like his policies.
 
good! now if ron paul or a chosen heir of sorts runs after september, can
the LP party tagteam with nader's people in getting the big two to debate?
 
Can Nader choose Ron Paul as a running mate? Or are there party guidelines which
would prevent such a thing?
 
I like Nader.

I was a full on libertarian in 2000 and had nowhere really to go, and while I wasn't huge on some of his social policies I realized after listening to him that Nader was actually fairly libertarian... not to mention I am an environmentalist so that works out pretty well... but I think Ron Paul is a bigger environmentalist than any of the candidates on the left or right.
 
Ralph Nader is a principled man. That much is admirable.

I don't know...when your principles basically revolve around the need for the government to save people from themselves, there's not much to admire.

I really don't understand this fixtation on anyone remotely "anti-establishment". If you have bad ideas - even if you're opposed to the corrupt status-quo - your ideas are still bad. Personally I'd rather support someone mainstream who believes in some semblence of limited government over an "outsider" who does not.
 
I don't know...when your principles basically revolve around the need for the government to save people from themselves, there's not much to admire.

I don't think that's an entirely fair take on Nader. He's opposed to the stupid war on drugs, and that is all about the government saving people from themselves. I think Nader believes government has a role to counter the unprincipled abuse of power by corporations. Whether this is achievable or worthwhile is debateable, but it's not fair to lump Nader in with pure big government corporatists like Hillary and McCain. Nader is about the exact opposite of a corporatist.

I think even Ron Paul would say that a legitimate role of government is to protect the people from having their rights abused by force or fraud, and I think he's probably in agreement with Nader on that score.
 
nader is a jerk. He handed teh election to Bush on a silver platter. oh did i say 'jerk'? i meant elitist puppet-conman dick.
 
I think even Ron Paul would say that a legitimate role of government is to protect the people from having their rights abused by force or fraud, and I think he's probably in agreement with Nader on that score.

Nader is guilty of that. The very "thing" that made him a household name was "Unsafe At Any Speed," which contained Michael Moore-like half truths about safety in American automobiles.
 
Nader is guilty of that. The very "thing" that made him a household name was "Unsafe At Any Speed," which contained Michael Moore-like half truths about safety in American automobiles.

What half-truths? Driving in America remains incredibly unsafe today. Nader might have been wrong on some details, but he certainly wasn't wrong about making people aware of the carnage taking place on America's roads.
 
nader is a jerk. He handed teh election to Bush on a silver platter. oh did i say 'jerk'? i meant elitist puppet-conman dick.

That is a ridiculous comment. Did Ron Paul hand the GOP nomination to McCain?
 
I don't think that's an entirely fair take on Nader. He's opposed to the stupid war on drugs, and that is all about the government saving people from themselves. I think Nader believes government has a role to counter the unprincipled abuse of power by corporations. Whether this is achievable or worthwhile is debateable, but it's not fair to lump Nader in with pure big government corporatists like Hillary and McCain. Nader is about the exact opposite of a corporatist.

I think even Ron Paul would say that a legitimate role of government is to protect the people from having their rights abused by force or fraud, and I think he's probably in agreement with Nader on that score.

+1

He is not my "ideal" candidate because he misses the boat on many important issues. However he far better than McCain, Obama or Hillary. He is honest and has principles.
 
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