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foofighter20x

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This should start some discussion. :D

My Plan:

1. Get out of Iraq immediately. There's no reasonable justification for us to be there any more. It's turned into a money and death pit.
2. Find UBL and destroy the remnants of al Qaeda with our intelligence services and with cooperation from international governments and their law enforcement and intelligence agencies. Also, grant Letter of Marque and Reprisal, as the Constitution authorizes, to go after al Qaeda and UBL in countries that won't cooperate. Once done, get out of Afghanistan.
3. Withdrawal all US troops in Europe undera NATO. Europe can defend itself.
4. Kick the UN out of the US. All having the UN in our country does is allow for other countries to send spies here in official cover capacity. I'm sure Holland would love to have the UN in their country.
5. Abolish the Federal Reserve and the IRS.
6. Abolish our current fractional reserve banking laws.
7. Amend the Constitution as follows:
7a. House members only gets their paycheck, each member equally, out of leftover federal funds--i.e. if there's a deficit, or close to it, their pay is first to go, entirely. Like, if there's only $4.35 left over, they only each get $.01. Also required that their pay be no more than double the median pay of all American residents.
7b. Repeal the 17th Amendment and give States back their leash on the federal government. Cut the Senate in half. Remove Senate term of 6 years. Require that each state legislature elect its Senator as it chooses, but not via popular election of the people, and let the state legislature have recall power over that Senator at any time they so desire to give him the boot. US Senator salaries must be paid by their state and not the federal gov't.
7c. Repeal 16th Amendment to make sure the IRS stays dead.
7d. Add a provision that Congress may not exempt itself from any laws it passes.
7e. Set the size of the House at no more than 300, remove apportionment, and require the entire body to be elected nationally by party-list voting, with each party getting a seat for every .33% of the vote it gets.
7f. Get rid of the Office of VP. If the Senate ties, the measure dies. Put all the other jobs of VeeP, minus the Senate stuff of course, in the hands of SecState.
7g. Require all bills must pass absolute majority vote respective to chamber size.
7h. Give the Pres line-item veto authority for spending bills.
7i. Amend amendment provision as follows
Amendments can be proposed two ways: 2/3 approval House and Senate; or 2/3 Approval of Legislatures in 2/3 States over 5 year period from first passing of first state legislature.
Once an amendment gets the 2/3 approval, it is considered "proposed."
Proposed amendments, within 5 years of being proposed, must be approved by 3/4 approval by the PEOPLE via referendum in 3/4 States in order to be ratified.​

7j. Remove power for Congress to borrow money
7k. People Veto on bad legislation.
7l. Presidential term limits to only 4 years (Thomas Jefferson wanted this)
7m. Congress can only pass ONE law at a time. No bundling, piggybacking, or attaching "riders" to even slightly related bills. Each bill on its own merits.​
8. Release all political prisoners such as Patriot Irwin Schiff for "tax crimes."
9. Release all prisoners of victimless "crimes."
10. Repeal Patriot Acts 1 and 2
11. Repeal all gun control laws (See Gun Control's Nazi Connection. Shocking! http://www.jpfo.org/GCA_68.htm)
12. Review ALL legislation against the Constitution and Repeal all laws counter to it
13. Only natural people can donate money to political campaigns, and must do so directly. Also, those folks can only donate to candidates for whom they can actually vote. No more of this sending campaign cash from CA to out of State when you can't vote there. Only exception I can see with this is to the new method of electing the House as that goes to party-lists and not individual candidates.
14. Paper Ballot voting only. No electronic voting!
15. Every member of Congress must entirely read every bill that comes to a vote on the floor.

Feel free to add to it!

EDIT: Consolidated extra items from below. Mine are bolded, just to show I'm not so smart. :D
 
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I actually thought about this issue somewhat.

Suppose you were given a magic power. You could amend the Constitution any way you choose. You are able to convince every else of the merits of your changes and get them passed.

What would you do?

After thinking about it for awhile, I realized that no finite list of amendments suffices. I decided that the only valid Constitution is NULL. The government should disband and privatize *EVERYTHING*.
 
Amending the Constitution is something that's only going to happen if we get about 100M citizens irate enough to demand it. Otherwise, the politicians will just ignore it.

Sadly.
 
After thinking about it for awhile, I realized that no finite list of amendments suffices. I decided that the only valid Constitution is NULL. The government should disband and privatize *EVERYTHING*.

I don't really like that option. But if it did happen, the people doing the jobs would be less inept, incompetent, corrupt and dysfunctional. :cool:
 
This should start some discussion. :D

My Plan:

1. Get out of Iraq immediately. There's no reasonable justification for us to be there any more. It's turned into a money and death pit.
2. Find UBL and destroy the remnants of al Qaeda with our intelligence services and with cooperation from international governments and their law enforcement and intelligence agencies. Also, grant Letter of Marque and Reprisal, as the Constitution authorizes, to go after al Qaeda and UBL in countries that won't cooperate. Once done, get out of Afghanistan.
3. Withdrawal all US troops in Europe undera NATO. Europe can defend itself.
4. Kick the UN out of the US. All having the UN in our country does is allow for other countries to send spies here in official cover capacity. I'm sure Holland would love to have the UN in their country.
5. Abolish the Federal Reserve and the IRS.
6. Abolish our current fractional reserve banking laws.
7. Amend the Constitution as follows:
7a. House members only gets their paycheck, each member equally, out of leftover federal funds--i.e. if there's a deficit, or close to it, their pay is first to go, entirely. Like, if there's only $4.35 left over, they only each get $.01. Also required that their pay be no more than double the median pay of all American residents.
7b. Repeal the 17th Amendment and give States back their leash on the federal government. Cut the Senate in half. Remove Senate term of 6 years. Require that each state legislature elect its Senator as it chooses, but not via popular election of the people, and let the state legislature have recall power over that Senator at any time they so desire to give him the boot. US Senator salaries must be paid by their state and not the federal gov't.
7c. Repeal 16th Amendment to make sure the IRS stays dead.
7d. Add a provision that Congress may not exempt itself from any laws it passes.
7e. Set the size of the House at no more than 300, remove apportionment, and require the entire body to be elected nationally by party-list voting, with each party getting a seat for every .33% of the vote it gets.
7f. Get rid of the Office of VP. If the Senate ties, the measure dies. Put all the other jobs of VeeP, minus the Senate stuff of course, in the hands of SecState.
7g. Require all bills must pass absolute majority vote respective to chamber size.
7h. Give the Pres line-item veto authority.
7i. Amend amendment provision as follows
Amendments can be proposed two ways: 2/3 approval House and Senate; or 2/3 Approval of Legislatures in 2/3 States over 5 year period.
Proposed amendments must be ratified within 5 years or shall be null.
Proposed amendments must be ratified by 3/4 approval by the PEOPLE via referendum in 3/4 States.​

Uh... that's all I can think of right now.

I like! I like! :)

7j. Remove power for Congress to borrow money
7k. People Veto on bad legislation.
7l. Presidential term limits to only 4 years (Thomas Jefferson wanted this)
7m. Congress can only pass ONE law at a time.
8. Release all political prisoners such as Patriot Irwin Schiff for "tax crimes."
9. Release all prisoners of victim-less "crimes."
10. Repeal Patriot Acts 1 and 2
11. Repeal all gun control laws (See Gun Control's Nazi Connection. Shocking! http://www.jpfo.org/GCA_68.htm)
12 Review ALL legislation against the Constitution and Repeal all laws counter to it

During the Convention, James Mason, one of our forgotten founders, wanted a 3-person presidential PANEL instead of a 1-person presidency. Something to think about.:eek:

Admittedly, there are a few defects in our Constitution (James Mason refused to sign it as it was). But it's still nothing that can't be resolved by reasoning men (women inclusive).

Isn't it amazing that The People here have answers to solve these problems but our Congress can't? :confused:

It's going to be up to us.

- SL
 
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I've thought about it. Privatizing everything isn't the abject horror you would imagine. The philosophy is called "agorism" - you can Google for it.

Everyone knows that government is for sale. Why not go to the extreme of privatizing *EVERYTHING*?

I never was given the opportunity to sign the Constitution. To be a valid contract, doesn't that mean I was given the opportunity to sign it with informed consent? What right did other people have to impose a Constitution on me before I was born? Moving to another country is not an option, because they're as bad or worse.

If you have a privatized police force, if they don't perform, people will start seeking alternate vendors. With a privatized justice system, court costs would be less, and people could effectively represent themselves in trials. With privatized justice, lawyers wouldn't have a government-endorsed monopoly. In the current system, the incentive is for the legal system to be complicated, expensive, and time-consuming.

If there were multiple vendors in the same city, disputes would very rarely escalate into violence. The incentive would be for the businesses to resolve things peacefully, if possible.

Many things that are crimes now would not be crimes without the government forbidding the activity.

If you take away all pretense of government legitimacy, any attempt to confiscate wealth is met with resistance.
 
All lobbying/BRIBERY must be made illegal. Congress is enslaved by special interests groups instead of being representatives of the people that elected them in trust.
 
Item lucky # 13. Only natural people can donate money to political campaigns, and must do so directly. Also, those folks can only donate to candidates for whom they can actually vote. No more of this sending campaign cash from CA to out of State when you can't vote there. Only exception I can see with this is to the new method of electing the House as that goes to party-lists and not individual candidates.
 
Item lucky # 13. Only natural people can donate money to political campaigns, and must do so directly. Also, those folks can only donate to candidates for whom they can actually vote. No more of this sending campaign cash from CA to out of State when you can't vote there. Only exception I can see with this is to the new method of electing the House as that goes to party-lists and not individual candidates.

#14: Paper Ballot voting only. No electronic voting!

Foofigher20x, perhaps you can update your first post with all these new additions. That would be great!

- SL
 

Excellent. I saw you added #15. Good one too! I signed a petition about that with www.downsizedc.org.

You know, with all these great answers we've posted here, wouldn't you think that Americans would see that its become obvious that most in Congress are not interesting in fixing our American Republic?

Doesn't it make one wonder WHY?

The douchebags COULD fix it. But NOOO. They're apparently having too much fun with their self-centered gang of 534 (Ron excluded) and couldn't give a shit about our American Republic or We the People. :mad:

Certainly they can't be THIS confused? :confused:

They need to be FIRED. I'm not sure what Ron Paul is going to do about this because he can't control Congress. But what he CAN to his tell America about the BUMS!

Sorry, this really makes me upset to think about ... to think how relatively easy it would be to fix our Republic. The answers are there!

- SL

PS; I hope Ron reads this list ... BY The People. This is what we DEMAND! Our negligent Congress needs to get off their lazy asses and go to work! (Excluding you Ron.) After I see we've pretty much finished this list, I'm sending it to the Representative of my district and to my 2 Senators of Idaho! I'm glad you started this! Thanks! "Power concedes nothing without a DEMAND." Put pressure on these fuckers! (Yea, I'm still enraged!)
 
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#16. The judicial merit of Taxpayer Standing before any federal court shall be sufficient, inviolable, and unquestioned.
 
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7a. House members only gets their paycheck, each member equally, out of leftover federal funds--i.e. if there's a deficit, or close to it, their pay is first to go, entirely. Like, if there's only $4.35 left over, they only each get $.01. Also required that their pay be no more than double the median pay of all American residents.

Wouldn't the pay based on surplus actually cause them to inflate their budgets just to have more money left over?

Let's stick them with the military pay scale. Say, a 12yr E-6 pay. Then they can be alloted an additional income as set by their state (ala the BAH of the military), however much their individual state chooses.

Currently, a 12yr E-6 is $3,000/mo before taxes.
 
Wouldn't the pay based on surplus actually cause them to inflate their budgets just to have more money left over?

Let's stick them with the military pay scale. Say, a 12yr E-6 pay. Then they can be alloted an additional income as set by their state (ala the BAH of the military), however much their individual state chooses.

Currently, a 12yr E-6 is $3,000/mo before taxes.

Nah, what I meant by this is that once all the expenditures for the fiscal year are met, the Congress gets paid with whatever money is left--up to their salary level--from revenues raised through taxation.

Thus, if the government runs a deficit, they don't get paid a penny. Really, they'd only get paid if they run just enough of a surplus to meet the amount required to pay them all.

And you know what that means... Instant balanced budget. ;) :D
 
7e. Set the size of the House at no more than 300, remove apportionment, and require the entire body to be elected nationally by party-list voting,

As someone who lives in a country which has this:

NO.

NO.

Just NO.
 
Okay, let me demonstrate.

Israel operates on a party list system compiled by either a party leadership, or during primaries (said primaries are normally dominated by the leadership). So a candidate that is 'not mainstream' will be normally excluded from those lists.

Such a thing would mean that Candidates like RP would become completely extinct, and you would have zero control over which INDIVIDUALS sit in Congress, only on which PARTIES, which altogether different.
 
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