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Military families were targeted as customers during the boom in subprime lending

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This has not been discussed in MSM, foreclosures in military towns have taken place at 4 times the national rate and part of the reason may be that military families were targeted by subprime leneders.

Some recent news on this and advice for military families from CBS moneywatch:

Basic Training for Military Homebuyers

By Alison Rogers | Oct 5, 2009

Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines: more than 1.4 million people actively serve in those four branches of the military, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. Throw in the nearly 24 million veterans and you’ve got a large population of potential homebuyers, a population that the U.S. government has tried to encourage with different real estate programs for veterans. The best known of these, started in 1944, are VA loans, a guarantee program that has helped, according to the Veterans Administration, 18 million buyers.

More recently, however, the VA Home Loan program has run into problems. “Military Homebuyers Find VA Loans a Roadblock,” a piece by Carolyn Said in today’s San Francisco Chronicle, notes that having a VA Loan can actually hurt foreclosure bidders.

The reasons, as Said explains in her trenchant piece, are two-fold. One is that a lot of foreclosures are cash sales (I translate this as meaning they’re being bought by investors rather than potential residents) and sellers often prefer cash deals to mortgage deals. An all-cash deal is faster and less risky.

http://moneywatch.bnet.com/saving-money/blog/ask-agent/basic-training-for-military-homebuyers/988/


Foreclosures in Military Towns Surge at Four Times U.S. Rate

By Kathleen M. Howley

May 27 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. Air Force Technical Sergeant Jeffrey VerSteegh, who repairs F-16 jets for the 132nd Fighter Wing, departed Des Moines, Iowa, in April for his third tour in Iraq. The father of four may lose his home when he returns.

The four-bedroom farmhouse he and his wife, Kathleen, own near the Iowa State Fairgrounds went into default in December after their monthly mortgage costs doubled to $1,100. Kathleen missed work because of breast cancer and they struggled to keep up the house payment, falling behind on other bills. Their bankruptcy was approved by the court a week after VerSteegh left for Iraq.

In the midst of the worst surge in mortgage defaults in seven decades, foreclosures in U.S. towns where soldiers live are increasing at a pace almost four times the national average, according to data compiled by research firm RealtyTrac Inc. in Irvine, California. As military families like the VerSteeghs signed up for the initial lower rates and easier terms of subprime mortgages, the number of people taking out Veterans Administration loans fell to the lowest in at least 12 years.

``We've never faced a situation like this, not in the Vietnam War, World War II, or the Korean War, where so many military are in danger of losing their homes,'' said Paul Sullivan, executive director of Veterans for Common Sense, a Washington-based advocacy group started in 2002 by Iraq and Afghanistan War veterans. ``No one asked them for their credit score when we asked them to fight for us.''

Military Foreclosures

Foreclosure filings in 10 towns and cities within 10 miles of military facilities, including Norfolk, Virginia, home of the Navy's largest base, rose by an average 217 percent from January through April from a year earlier. Nationally, the rate was 59 percent in the same period, according to RealtyTrac, which tallies bank seizures, auctions and default notices.

The biggest surge was in Columbia, South Carolina, home to Fort Jackson, where the Army trains recruits for combat in Afghanistan and Iraq. Properties in some stage of foreclosure rose 492 percent from a year earlier, RealtyTrac said. The second-biggest increase was 414 percent in Woodbridge, Virginia, next to the Marine Corps Base Quantico.

Foreclosure filings tripled in the cities surrounding Norfolk Naval Base and the Camp Pendleton Marine Corps Base near Oceanside, California, RealtyTrac said. Havelock, North Carolina, site of Marine Corps Air Station Cherry Point, saw foreclosures more than double.

Weak Credit

Military families were targeted as customers during the boom in subprime lending because their frequent moves, overseas stints, and low pay meant they were more likely to have weak credit ratings, said Rudi Williams of the National Veterans Foundation in Los Angeles. In 2006, at the peak of U.S. subprime lending, the number of VA loans fell to barely a third the level of two years earlier, according to VA data.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&refer=home&sid=awj2TMDLnwsU
 
Although this was taking place under GW Bush and Republican run administration's watch if above report has it right, it may not be fair to blame GOP for this entirely. During 05-06 time frame, GOP's primary focus was on liberating Iraqis, Palestinians and Afghans and not so much on domestic lenders. Or it could be that their firm belief in free markets for subprime lenders prevented them from interferring in their lending business. In either case, tradionally pro-military GOP cannot be blamed for this entirely.


On another note, just saw this headline on Drudge:

United Nations Investigator Launches Probe Into US Housing Crisis

http://www.breitbart.tv/united-nations-investigator-launches-probe-into-us-housing-crisis/#
 
Nobody can be blamed for that. Nobdy was forcig people to sign contracts in military or civilian population. This is rediculous. You sign, you don't deliver, you default. Contract can only be pronounced void if either of the sides was not "adequate" becouse of some mental illness. Are these people claiming that most of our military personal is nuts and lenders illigaly took advatage of them? If they don't, then I don't see a point here.
 
A lot of military got interest only 0% down loans because they can basically rent and live in a really nice house for a few years until their next move, then sell and make a profit. However, with the downturn, housing prices have dropped and the houses aren't selling for what their loan amount is, and so they stand to lose. Instead, they just walk away and suffer the bad credit score.
 
Nobody can be blamed for that. Nobdy was forcig people to sign contracts in military or civilian population. This is rediculous. You sign, you don't deliver, you default. Contract can only be pronounced void if either of the sides was not "adequate" becouse of some mental illness. Are these people claiming that most of our military personal is nuts and lenders illigaly took advatage of them? If they don't, then I don't see a point here.

I must preface my views on housing crisis by saying that I'm a layman when it comes to inner workings of economic system. Following observations suggest that blame had been placed at various places, some Fox pundits like Hannity had blamed the "The Irresponsible Home Buyers". Question arises, were these Fox pundits suggesting that our military heroes are 4 times more "irresponsible" than our civilian population going by above stats?


YouTube - Michael Moore, Sean Hannity Talk Mortgage Crisis

Michelle Malkin » The Irresponsible Home Buyers' Amendment

The Irresponsible Home Buyers' Amendment. ... Posted in: Chris Dodd, Subprime crisis .... For example, say at 6% interest a home buyer qualifies for a $100000 loan. ...
michellemalkin.com/.../the-irresponsible-home-buyers-amendment/



Mega GOP philosopher Limbaugh had blamed Clinton, Frank & ACORN for subprime lending mess.
 
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were these Fox pundits suggesting that our military heroes are 4 times more "irresponsible" than our civilian population going by above stats?

You can be irresponsable with somebdy else property. but when you make a financial decision with your own money and this decision does not work out the way you planned - it's just a bag financial decision. Nobody is being irresponsable here. I have bought a house in 2005 and sold it in 2006 with $75K loss. Was I irresponsable? No, I just made a bad financial decision. Whom would you blame for me loosing $75K? Niether bank, no a seller of the house forced me into the deal.

Unless they can prove that banks conspired and forced military personal into deals, this blame searching is pointless.
 
Actually bush made it harder for people to focus on military personal. He stopped the release of who was moving so troop movements couldn't be seen. The office I worked at lost 90% of there biz because of this and had to completely change how they got biz.

I think they were targeted no more or less than anyone else, they have a few benifits with VA loans but subprime at the time offered better options most the time.
 
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