Larken Rose Bonus Chat on Purity at Anarchapulco 2020

[CCTelander]

Another good Larken Rose video. The stuff on purism is at the beginning.

 

[CCTelander]

Bump

 

[CCTelander]

Bump for all the "purists."

 

[Cap]

Thanks for posting this Chris, but some of us have known this all along. +rep

 

[Cap]

Rose is such a treasure.

 

[dannno]

LOL.. that is completely wrong. He doesn't even know what purist means, only a purist wouldn't even know what the word means..

A much better analogy than, "I'm against all aggression, even aggression against brown people down in Mexico" would be, "I'm against all aggression, I think it is just as bad that the government flicks a man on the back of his ear than kill him, so don't help to elect any ear flickers just to avoid the politicians who will bury you 6 feet under.."

Then they act like I am pro-ear flicking for supporting an ear-flicker.. That is what really drives me nuts about purists.

 

[dannno]

Why do purists oppose government harm reduction?


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[CCTelander]

LOL.. that is completely wrong. He doesn't even know what purist means, only a purist wouldn't even know what the word means..

A much better analogy than, "I'm against all aggression, even aggression against brown people down in Mexico" would be, "I'm against all aggression, I think it is just as bad that the government flicks a man on the back of his ear than kill him, so don't help to elect any ear flickers just to avoid the politicians who will bury you 6 feet under.."

Then they act like I am pro-ear flicking for supporting an ear-flicker.. That is what really drives me nuts about purists.

Let me know when you manage to free your own mind. Prior to that any attempt to reason with you about it will be pointless since you are not yet capable of grasping it.

In the meantime, "may your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that [you] were our countryman."

 

[dannno]

Let me know when you manage to free your own mind. Prior to that any attempt to reason with you about it will be pointless since you are not yet capable of grasping it.

In the meantime, "may your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that [you] were our countryman."

LOL, my mind is a lot more free than yours. You can't even make basic arguments.

 

[CCTelander]

Why do purists oppose government harm reduction?


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This is, at best, a completely disingenuous question. More likely a deliberate attempt to deceive. I have never once opposed any reduction in "government harm." Ever. Reduce away. Just like liberty advocates have been doing for at least 70 years now. Have at it.

 

[CCTelander]

LOL, my mind is a lot more free than yours. You can't even make basic arguments.

mmmm hmmm.

 

[dannno]

This is, at best, a completely disingenuous question. More likely a deliberate attempt to deceive. I have never once opposed any reduction in "government harm." Ever. Reduce away. Just like liberty advocates have been doing for at least 70 years now. Have at it.

You OPPOSE PEOPLE who are working on the STATED GOAL of reducing government harm.

You know you do it, you know your other purist buddies do it.. and then you try and say that you are better than them because you oppose the ear flicking - when they are fighting against the murderer.

Then you deny it.

 

[CCTelander]

You OPPOSE PEOPLE who are working on the STATED GOAL of reducing government harm.

You know you do it, you know your other purist buddies do it.. and then you try and say that you are better than them because you oppose the ear flicking - when they are fighting against the murderer.

Then you deny it.

Translation:

"You don't kiss Trump's ass like I do so therefore you're EEEEEEVVVVVIIIIIILLLLLL."

Spare me.

We've had Trump for almost 4 years now. We are demonstrably LESS FREE now than we were when he entered office. Case fucking closed.

 

[dannno]

Translation:

"You don't kiss Trump's ass like I do so therefore you're EEEEEEVVVVVIIIIIILLLLLL."

Spare me.

We've had Trump for almost 4 years now. We are demonstrably LESS FREE now than we were when he entered office. Case fucking closed.

No, case is not closed.

Why are we less free? Because the deep state, who opposes Trump, released a bio-weapon so that he wouldn't be re-elected - because the people who hate our freedom the most, hate Trump that much, that they are willing to kill people on a global scale with a pandemic to get him out of office and continue their anti-freedom agenda.

If you want to go with the deep state agenda, then make sure Trump isn't re-elected.

Trump didn't even take any of our freedoms, it was the states, run by the deep state.. because states have rights too and Trump is setting an example by respecting them.

If you want to take out the deep state, then support Trump and support the DOJ in taking down Epstein's pals.

 

[dannno]

We've had Trump for almost 4 years now. We are demonstrably LESS FREE now than we were when he entered office.

My taxes are lower, there is no Obamacare mandate, other than the Coronavirus stuff coming out of the states which was already discussed, I feel like I'm more free. We are leaving all these global organizations, too.. Not sure what you are talking about.

 

[CCTelander]

No, case is not closed.

Why are we less free? Because the deep state, who opposes Trump, released a bio-weapon so that he wouldn't be re-elected - because the people who hate our freedom the most, hate Trump that much, that they are willing to kill people on a global scale with a pandemic to get him out of office and continue their anti-freedom agenda.

If you want to go with the deep state agenda, then make sure Trump isn't re-elected.

Trump didn't even take any of our freedoms, it was the states, run by the deep state.. because states have rights too and Trump is setting an example by respecting them.

If you want to take out the deep state, then support Trump and support the DOJ in taking down Epstein's pals.

Translation:

"You're either with Trump or you're with the deep state."

Now where have I heard something like that before?

You're so drunk on the Kool Aid that you don't even notice how EXACTLY LIKE those you claim to oppose you've become. I don't have time for this shit. Let me know when the buzz wears off.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Translation:

"You're either with Trump or you're with the deep state."

Now where have I heard something like that before?

You're so drunk on the Kool Aid that you don't even notice how EXACTLY LIKE those you claim to oppose you've become. I don't have time for this shit. Let me know when the buzz wears off.

I know where I heard it. Larken Rose said it around 1:48. "Either you are a purist... Or you are an advocate for authoritarian evil."

 

[CCTelander]

I know where I heard it. Larken Rose said it around 1:48. "Either you are a purist... Or you are an advocate for authoritarian evil."

Which, of course, is exactly the same thing, right Brian? Think about it for a while and get back to us.

 

[dannno]

Which, of course, is exactly the same thing, right Brian? Think about it for a while and get back to us.

No, it's EXACTLY what I'm accusing you of, and what I've always accused purists of doing.

Purists often won't support somebody who is doing something like advocating a 10% income tax because a 10% income tax is "authoritarian evil".. which would make sense if the other choice was somebody who advocated no income tax.. but if the other option is a 80% income tax, then that is called government harm reduction - especially in the case where we currently are paying 30-60%+ income tax and especially if the person who is advocating the 10% tax would also ultimately like to abolish the income tax.

I use that a simplistic example to represent a wide variety of other issues.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Which, of course, is exactly the same thing, right Brian? Think about it for a while and get back to us.

Just pointing it out as it was used in the Rose video. “Either you are with us, or you are with them” always sounds the same to me. Not a judgement on which side is more or less correct.

“Either you are with Green Bay, or you are with Minnesota.”
“Either you are with Biden, or you are not really black.”
“Either you are with Trump, or you are with the communists.”
“Either you are with Antifa, or you are with the Nazis”.
“Either you are with Kanye, or you are with Taylor.”
“Either you are with Massie, or you are with Pelosi.”