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Conza88

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I've changed my reasoning... in light of Obama's true colours, beginning to really shine throw as he thinks he's rapped things up.

I used to myself, contend for a short period of time - that Obama was the least dangerous to the United States out of the 3 crackpots... I was wrong, he's in fact the MOST dangerous to Freedom, Liberty & Prosperity.

The quickest way to bring down a dictator, is too make them look like one. With McCain & Hillary - the hatred is already present, the willingness and ability to wake people up - increases with these two in the white house.

Quite literally, this quote rings true:

“None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free.”
Goethe

Obama in the White House is disaster. His false hope & rhetoric spreads seeds of deception.
Obama Should scare the ____ out of you.
Word of Obama's totalEATarianism spreading fast
 
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Are you hungry or something?

I think Obama is the best choice of the three dictators for one reason.

Obama has most of the anti-war activists and civil liberties activists backing him. If he gets elected, all of these activists will be forced to see he was not the man they thought he was. They will see the false left-right illusion, and hopefully many of them will join the real freedom campaign.

If he loses, they will just bitch for the next 4 years..."Obama wouldn't have let this happen"
 
Are you hungry or something?

I think Obama is the best choice of the three dictators for one reason.

Obama has most of the anti-war activists and civil liberties activists backing him. If he gets elected, all of these activists will be forced to see he was not the man they thought he was. They will see the false left-right illusion, and hopefully many of them will join the real freedom campaign.

If he loses, they will just bitch for the next 4 years..."Obama wouldn't have let this happen"

You made some points, but Conza's points are still quite valid.

Just think how many people have 'woken up' because of the
bad, bad job the GW has done!

And also think of all the people who are still backing GW in spite
of the horrifically bad job that he's done.

An Obama win would simply stagnate any mass uprising on
a grand scale and would entrench America further into being
conditioned that out freedoms are still here.

Give us another Hitler like GW and people will be yelling from the
rooftops.
 
mccain is the losing choice , the republican party will lose by a landslide in the general election. WE MUST GET RON PAUL AS OUR NOMINEE or we can kiss the future of the gop GOODBYE ,the brand name republican isn't worth buying to most folks, we need another brand.
 
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i hear you

You made some points, but Conza's points are still quite valid.

Just think how many people have 'woken up' because of the
bad, bad job the GW has done!

And also think of all the people who are still backing GW in spite
of the horrifically bad job that he's done.

An Obama win would simply stagnate any mass uprising on
a grand scale and would entrench America further into being
conditioned that out freedoms are still here.

Give us another Hitler like GW and people will be yelling from the
rooftops.

but the brand name republican is the problem,most think of bush and the corrupt republicans. the brand name republican sells worse then garden manure..
 
Are you hungry or something?

I think Obama is the best choice of the three dictators for one reason.

Obama has most of the anti-war activists and civil liberties activists backing him. If he gets elected, all of these activists will be forced to see he was not the man they thought he was. They will see the false left-right illusion, and hopefully many of them will join the real freedom campaign.

If he loses, they will just bitch for the next 4 years..."Obama wouldn't have let this happen"

Hmmm thats a good point. But regardless, if Obama's in power - they're going to remain under his spell. It's not going to be HIS fault... it's going to be the previous administrations.. they got us into this mess.. MAN, those Bush & republican yrs screwed this country... :rolleyes: We'll NEED 4 more yrs to fix it! :rolleyes:

Alternatively, if you want whoever gets in the White House to only serve ONE term. It's going to be easier to unseat either of them, compared to Obama.. I think that if Obama gets in... people are going to be like, "Ohhhh all our problems are going to be solveddd! The democrats are in power now..!" :rolleyes: I think what it comes down too, is peoples ability to address the real problem.. with GW they see right through that shit, he's an idiot. With Obama... he sings you a lala-by, while he gets ready to stab you in the back."


An Obama win would simply stagnate any mass uprising on
a grand scale and would entrench America further into being
conditioned that out freedoms are still here.

Give us another Hitler like GW and people will be yelling from the
rooftops.

Qft. Too add to the overall post, its a dicey, dicey situation.. kind of like choosing how you want to end it.. drowning, buried alive...

Are you hungry or something?

LOL. I am actually.. :D
 
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hmm interesting thoughts here but i wont vote for either if there is one thing this movement should stand for its voting on principals

not that i thought you were sayin we should vote mccain in the likely event of bein nominated

lets hope hilldawg pulls the rug out from under this clown
 
Step out of the shackles of the fallacy they have constructed. Choosing the best of 3 evils is choosing evil.

Vote for someone that shares your ideals. Vote for Paul or the LP candidate.

WHY DO YOU NEED TO VOTE FOR ONE OF THE THREE EVILS?

WHAT DO YOU WIN FOR TRYING TO VOTE FOR THE WINNING CANDIDATE THAT USHERS IN EVIL?
 
That's why we should vote for either Chuck Baldwin or Bob Barr (assuming he gets the LP nomination)
 
THE 2008 ELECTION

--"Would you prefer to be killed by being shot in the head, the heart, or the gut?"

"The Head, it's faster"

--"OK, the head it is, thank you for your vote"

"Wait a second. Someone said I had a 4th choice, can I choose not being killed?"

--"Sure, but we do not advertise that choice"

"I want to not die"

--"OK, your vote for Ron Paul has been recorded"

--"Next voter"

--"Would you prefer to be killed by being shot in the head, the heart, or the gut?"
 
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Are you hungry or something?

I think Obama is the best choice of the three dictators for one reason.

Obama has most of the anti-war activists and civil liberties activists backing him. If he gets elected, all of these activists will be forced to see he was not the man they thought he was. They will see the false left-right illusion, and hopefully many of them will join the real freedom campaign.

If he loses, they will just bitch for the next 4 years..."Obama wouldn't have let this happen"

this is my thinking exactly.

As much as it sucks, Obama stole our thunder and we won't get it back until the change candidate shows to everybody else what we already know...He isn't going to change anything that actually matters.
 
There's no reason why you need to decide between those three if we don't have to vote for any of them. There's more than 2 parties people.
 
mccain is the losing choice , the republican party will lose by a landslide in the general election. WE MUST GET RON PAUL AS OUR NOMINEE or we can kiss the future of the gop GOODBYE ,the brand name republican isn't worth buying to most folks, we need another brand.

The same people control both major parties, they couldn't care less which one wins. It's win-win for the Establishment.
 
THE 2008 ELECTION

--"Would you prefer to be killed by being shot in the head, the heart, or the gut?"

"The Head, it's faster"

--"OK, the head it is, thank you for your vote"

"Wait a second. Someone said I had a 4th choice, can I choose not being killed?"

--"Sure, but we do not advertise that choice"

"I want to not die"

--"OK, your vote for Ron Paul has been recorded"

--"Next voter"

--"Would you prefer to be killed by being shot in the head, the heart, or the gut?"

And 90% of the people will not question it, and instead will debate which is the best option of the three.

"Being shot in the heart will protect us from terrorists! We learned since 9/11 that terrorists hate Americans because of our compassionate hearts!"
 
And 90% of the people will not question it, and instead will debate which is the best option of the three.

"Being shot in the heart will protect us from terrorists! We learned since 9/11 that terrorists hate Americans because of our compassionate hearts!"

10% needs to breed within the 10% and have lots of kids

We really need to convert the Catholics (I was forced to go to Catholic school as a child, no harm intended by the jab).
 
WOAH, woah wooaohhh... Hold on now...

I hope I didn't convey that I was ever considering, NOR that ANYONE should - vote for these guys. I guess I really didn't make that clear... I thought maybe my history of shouting down people who think that way, may have held some weight.. Ah well.

I was just expressing, that I was under the delusion Obama is the least - worst of the 3 DEVILS... they can all get fked for all I care.

I'd rather die before I voted for evil. And if I was forced to, I'd write on the ballot "Ron Paul till I die" then set the ballot on fire, and put it in the slot.

I hope that clears up my position.
 
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