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Is Ron Paul’s Campaign Being Hijacked By The Whacko Fringe ?

Bradley in DC

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Is Ron Paul’s Campaign Being Hijacked By The Whacko Fringe ?

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Is Ron Paul’s Campaign Being Hijacked By The Whacko Fringe ?
Over at The Huffington Post, Thomas Edsall comes pretty close to writing a smear peace when he points out the fact that Ron Paul’s campaign seems to be attracting the support of some less than desirable characters:

Through no fault of his own, Rep. Ron Paul’s anti-globalist, anti-government campaign for the Republican presidential nomination has become a magnet in neo-Nazi networks, pulling in activists and supporters from the fringe white nationalist community where anti-Semitism, anti-black and anti-immigrant views are commonplace.

In some cases, these internet-based activists acknowledge that even though the Paul campaign does not have a racist or anti-Semitic agenda, it can serve as a vehicle to find sympathizers and to recruit new loyalists drawn to the Republican congressman’s opposition to international trade agreements, federal police authority and to the income tax.

Such web-based organizations as Stormfront (motto: “White Pride, World Wide”), Vanguard News Network (”No Jews. Just Right.”) and the Nationalist Coalition (”working to create the relationships that will lay the foundation for the White community that is necessary to our survival”) have become sources of support for Paul’s bid for the Republican nomination, and in some cases have set up separate Ron Paul discussion groups.

The Paul campaign dismissed the pro-Paul activities among these groups. “We don’t know who these people are,” said Jesse Benton, Paul’s communications director. Their support has “nothing to do with Ron Paul, and what he stands for….His message of freedom, peace and prosperity - that’s why people support him.”

Paul has not made racist or anti-Semitic appeals to the controversial organizations and their members. Instead, their support is based on Paul’s libertarian opposition to government generally, including the IRS and the powers granted to the federal government under the Patriot Act - views that are shared by many on the conservative fringe of the spectrum.

As Edsall points out, of course, there’s really nothing about the Paul campaign that comes anywhere close the agenda that the white supremacists (although they like to call themselves “white pride”) groups are advocating. Instead, what has happened, as I pointed out when the Stormfront ad became an issue last week, is that groups like these seem to be taking advantage of the decentralized nature of the campaign to latch their own agenda on to the campaign. And it’s not just the racists who are doing it, you can say the same thing about the 9/11 “truth” crowd, even though the Congressman has made it clear he doesn’t agree with them.

Edsall, being a typical Huffington Post contributor, tries to ascribe all this to Paul’s views on the issues:

The white nationalist and anti-Semitic support flowing to the Paul campaign reflects one of the difficulties facing candidates who do not fall into the midstream: that often their views on less controversial subjects like trade and the power of the federal government to take property through eminent domain also appeal to extremist groups.

Which comes pretty close to what leftists usually say about conservatives and libertarians — you’re ideas are invalid because you’re racist. Here’ Edsall can’t go that far, so he simply makes the implication and let’s the reader draw the conclusion.

Rather than the ideas being the problem, though, Jeff Cammaroto thinks its the campaign strategy that’s partially to blame:

The problem is, it seems like the campaign has been more than happy to welcome outsiders to spread its message online. That might seem like a great idea at first but when messages are not vetted by an official source, it is only a matter of time before some people rise up and exploit them.

Which, it seems, is what’s happened in this case.
 
We have to start posting on Huffpo and combat the propaganda with truth. We can show the liberals that Ron Paul is also under heavy attack by the right, because he is the only candidate that will stop the war. I bet that once liberals see that he is being attack by both sides, the propaganda from the left will not work as effective.
 
Saw this one coming. And it is correct. There are some whack jobs in our camp and they are not an asset.

The message of freedom is strong. So strong that it unites people from all positions in the political spectrum. While we do not agree with all the stances our supporters take we are pleased to see American's rallying around the US Constitution and the freedom it represents. The US constitution and freedom unite the people of the US, be they liberal, conservative,religious, agnostic and so on. Considering the current division and partisan nature of American politics today I find this turn of events quite refreshing.

Signed
Ron Paul

something along those lines would help diffuse questions regarding this serious matter
 
Being smeared by huffington post is a feather in our hat as far as republicans are concerned.
 
Guys,

Being associated with white supremacists is NOT an asset for the campaign. This is the kind of thing that will turn off moderates and minorities.

I would like to see more aggressive action to combat this nonsense.

Best,

James
 
This is a red herring. in a similar similar thread I posted that Ronald Reagan was endorsed by the same bunch of extremists... Water off a ducks back... It's a long campaign trail, don't lose sleep or fret about it... Ron Paul unifies people from all spectrums... Get over it.
 
The difference is Ronald Reagan issued a strong letter denouncing their endorsement and it killed the issue right there. Paul should do the same. Otherwise, this will still be a concern in average joe citizen's mind.
 
The difference is Ronald Reagan issued a strong letter denouncing their endorsement and it killed the issue right there. Paul should do the same. Otherwise, this will still be a concern in average joe citizen's mind.

And if asked, Ron Paul will do the same. Do you doubt that? Are suggesting he call a media conference to discuss this, thereby advertising this fringe group and aiding their cause?
 
Some people need to tone down how they spread the Dr Paul's message. Don't wear your 911 truth shirt when you canvas (I have seen it happen) and don't talk about global conspiracies. Ron Paul does not endorse these beliefs. Talk about what Ron Paul believes lower taxes, more freedom, less government and a humble foreign policy.
 
Man, there are some gullible people out there. I've never even heard of Stormfront until this stupid story came along. The original question in this thread is asking if the whacko fringe is hijacking the campaign - the answer is yes, but it is the far left whacko fringe. In their eyes Ron Paul is racist because he wants to do away with the welfare state - so naturally they are going to try and tie Ron Paul to REAL racists to make their point. Google Ron Paul White Supremacist and a long list of progressive blogs will pop up.
The average American spends zero time on neo-nazi websites, and if they see some bald headed asshole covered in swastika tattoos I highly doubt they are going to get close enough to ask him who he is endorsing for President.
 
Comment I made on another thread applies here-

You've gotten me thinking.. you are right. Who is to say who can and can't be part of the campaign. If we start banning XX group today, what is to say your group won't be the ones banned tomorrow. I'm a democrat, what if I'm banned next because it doesn't look good. What about Alex Jones fans. A lot of people don't like that Paul associates with him, are his fans next? What about anarchists, libertarians, conservatives, liberals, who says who can and can't be part of the Revolution?

I take back my previous comments about issuing a statement. We should be a revolution with open arms.
 
Paul has the appeal to everyone, of course he is going to attract people like that.
 
You cannot censor who supports Ron Paul, period. Not even if you wish for it VERY HARD.

While I am no racist, and certainly would not frequent any website that was openly racist, these people are entitled to their opinion, and they can legally vote.

Just like liberal democrats. ;)
 
Paul has the appeal to everyone, of course he is going to attract people like that.
Yep. It's like Ron Paul said in the PBS interview, freedom does not equal "profection" (whatever you deem to be perfection in this case). And it's not like he has any control over who supports him. In any case, he has already made it clear that just because certain groups endorse him doesn't mean he endorses them, and he'll continue to do so if he's asked. I don't care about this group, but at least they're not annoying like the 9/11 truthers who I think give Ron Paul an even worse name.
 
I think the fringe aspect has actually been reduced over the past few months. When I found RP, white supremacists and truthers seemed to be the majority. Now I rarely hear about/from them.
 
I think the fringe aspect has actually been reduced over the past few months. When I found RP, white supremacists and truthers seemed to be the majority. Now I rarely hear about/from them.
White supremacist is a whole different kettle of fish to being a truther you wanker. I would appreciate some discernment, being a part of that zany, "fringe aspect".
 
What I find interesting is why these people think a Paul President will help further their causes at all. Similar to those who attack his positions, I suspect they just think they'll get a "free pass" to do whatever they want. I wonder what they would think of his article on "hate" crimes? It might be because of his non-support of such measures they support him. That way they can go on hating whoever they want based on the color of their skin or the name of their god.

I'm really, REALLY sick and damn tired of the "race"/"religion" card (FWIW, I live in the South, I get to hear this a lot). Frankly, I don't care what race you are or whether you believe in worshipping goats, snakes or other odd gods. It's your life and your choices, but don't come trying to make my choices for me.
 
I wouldn't pay any attention to anything posted at the Liberty Papers. Even the people who post there seem to hate the guy running it.
 
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