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Impeachment Must be the Primary Goal of this Revolution

anonymous6728

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Even as we speak, GWB and his minions are working to entrench a Fascist regime that we will soon be powerless to resist. Below is the blueprint for establishing a fascist state as documented by Naomi Wolf in The End of America:

1.Invoke an External and Internal Threat
2.Establish Secret Prisons
3.Develop a Paramilitary Force
4.Surveil Ordinary Citizens
5.Infiltrate Citizens’ Groups
6.Arbitrarily Detain and Release Citizens
7.Target Key Individuals
8.Restrict the Press
9.Cast Criticism as “Espionage” and Dissent as “Treason”
10.Subvert the Rule of Law

All of these are in place to some degree, but not enough to assume complete control of American citizens. The articles on infowars and other alternative media sources can offer helpful hints on how the "Fascist States of Amerika" plan to subdue and disarm its citizens (poisoning, water contamination, reducing food supply, natural or “unnatural” disasters that demand forced relocation, etc.).

It is in the last chapter, “The Patriot’s Task,” that Wolf provides some final messages of hope that the country’s moves towards the closing down of democracy can be reversed. Solutions are also presented, including the need to “hold house parties, set up town halls, convene our neighbors, pass out users’ guides to the Constitution, overwhelm our representatives and the Presidential candidates with demands for them to restore the rule of law,” as well as “stand up directly to confront those who have committed crimes against the Constitution — and hold them accountable.” As the crimes against the Constitution have been numerous, and accountability has been lacking, it is uncertain how practical these suggestions may be, but neighbors and communities can come together over their disillusionment with the current state of American politics.

However, should we doddle and allow the Fascist State to be firmly established, the expected result would be protest, followed by paramilitary response and the severing of communications (internet, phones, etc.). After that, it is a simple exercise of divide and conquer through a series of pincer movements until the entire population is brought under state control.

Every day we ignore the obvious, we get weaker while fascism grows stronger. This is not a one person job. We must organize, convince the masses and implement a counter-offensive against the political structure while we still can. Should we succeed in impeaching Bush and Cheney & others by applying enough pressure en masse, we can then focus our attention against the corporate beast that has a stranglehold on the free market. Napoleon & Hitler lost their wars by simultaneously fighting a war on two fronts—if we make the same mistake, we will also fail.

We get the kind of govt. we deserve. If we let fascism get firmly entrenched, we will have no one to blame but ourselves. We have until the end of this year to get fascism out of the White House. After that, it will be too late to do anything of consequence. Ron's manifesto will be a memorial for the United States of America.
 
Even as we speak, GWB and his minions are working to entrench a Fascist regime that we will soon be powerless to resist. Below is the blueprint for establishing a fascist state as documented by Naomi Wolf in The End of America:

1.Invoke an External and Internal Threat
2.Establish Secret Prisons
3.Develop a Paramilitary Force
4.Surveil Ordinary Citizens
5.Infiltrate Citizens’ Groups
6.Arbitrarily Detain and Release Citizens
7.Target Key Individuals
8.Restrict the Press
9.Cast Criticism as “Espionage” and Dissent as “Treason”
10.Subvert the Rule of Law

All of these are in place to some degree, but not enough to assume complete control of American citizens. The articles on infowars and other alternative media sources can offer helpful hints on how the "Fascist States of Amerika" plan to subdue and disarm its citizens (poisoning, water contamination, reducing food supply, natural or “unnatural” disasters that demand forced relocation, etc.).

It is in the last chapter, “The Patriot’s Task,” that Wolf provides some final messages of hope that the country’s moves towards the closing down of democracy can be reversed. Solutions are also presented, including the need to “hold house parties, set up town halls, convene our neighbors, pass out users’ guides to the Constitution, overwhelm our representatives and the Presidential candidates with demands for them to restore the rule of law,” as well as “stand up directly to confront those who have committed crimes against the Constitution — and hold them accountable.” As the crimes against the Constitution have been numerous, and accountability has been lacking, it is uncertain how practical these suggestions may be, but neighbors and communities can come together over their disillusionment with the current state of American politics.

However, should we doddle and allow the Fascist State to be firmly established, the expected result would be protest, followed by paramilitary response and the severing of communications (internet, phones, etc.). After that, it is a simple exercise of divide and conquer through a series of pincer movements until the entire population is brought under state control.

Every day we ignore the obvious, we get weaker while fascism grows stronger. This is not a one person job. We must organize, convince the masses and implement a counter-offensive against the political structure while we still can. Should we succeed by applying enough pressure en masse, we can then focus our fight against the corporate beast that has a stranglehold on the free market. Napoleon & Hitler lost their wars by simultaneously fighting a war on two fronts—if we make the same mistake, we will also fail.

We get the kind of govt. we deserve. If we let fascism get firmly entrenched, we will have no one to blame but ourselves. We have until the end of this year to get fascism out of the White House. After that, it will be too late to do anything of consequence. Ron's manifesto will be a memorial to the United States of America.
 
Even as we speak, GWB and his minions are working to entrench a Fascist regime that we will soon be powerless to resist. Below is the blueprint for establishing a fascist state as documented by Naomi Wolf in The End of America:

1.Invoke an External and Internal Threat
2.Establish Secret Prisons
3.Develop a Paramilitary Force
4.Surveil Ordinary Citizens
5.Infiltrate Citizens’ Groups
6.Arbitrarily Detain and Release Citizens
7.Target Key Individuals
8.Restrict the Press
9.Cast Criticism as “Espionage” and Dissent as “Treason”
10.Subvert the Rule of Law

All of these are in place to some degree, but not enough to assume complete control of American citizens. The articles on infowars and other alternative media sources can offer helpful hints on how the "Fascist States of Amerika" plan to subdue and disarm its citizens (poisoning, water contamination, reducing food supply, natural or “unnatural” disasters that demand forced relocation, etc.).

It is in the last chapter, “The Patriot’s Task,” that Wolf provides some final messages of hope that the country’s moves towards the closing down of democracy can be reversed. Solutions are also presented, including the need to “hold house parties, set up town halls, convene our neighbors, pass out users’ guides to the Constitution, overwhelm our representatives and the Presidential candidates with demands for them to restore the rule of law,” as well as “stand up directly to confront those who have committed crimes against the Constitution — and hold them accountable.” As the crimes against the Constitution have been numerous, and accountability has been lacking, it is uncertain how practical these suggestions may be, but neighbors and communities can come together over their disillusionment with the current state of American politics.

However, should we doddle and allow the Fascist State to be firmly established, the expected result would be protest, followed by paramilitary response and the severing of communications (internet, phones, etc.). After that, it is a simple exercise of divide and conquer through a series of pincer movements until the entire population is brought under state control.

Every day we ignore the obvious, we get weaker while fascism grows stronger. This is not a one person job. We must organize, convince the masses and implement a counter-offensive against the political structure while we still can. Should we succeed by applying enough pressure in unison, we can then focus our fight against the corporate beast that has a stranglehold on the free market. Napoleon & Hitler lost their wars by simultaneously fighting a war on two fronts—if we make the same mistake, we will also fail.

We get the kind of govt. we deserve. If we let fascism get firmly entrenched, we will have no one to blame but ourselves. We have until the end of this year to get fascism out of the White House. After that, it will be too late to do anything of consequence. Ron's manifesto will be a memorial for the United States of America.
 
Well, what do you propose? Keep in mind this is at least a couple of years late. It would be far more reasonable to get him arrested some time AFTER he leaves the white house for war crimes or other legal reasons.
 
Hmmm become an all out target as the "kook's" and conspiracies nuts they really want us to be to discredit us, ummmm, no, but only because we can still change things and look rational at the same time.

Though i will say that path could attract others. (There should be no subversion, no downplaying of legitimate ideas)
Just because I may not agree with that being the main purpose should in no way stop you from pursuing interest.

Kucinich actually filed for the impeachment of Cheney but it has since been buried, we are at war, and no one wants to be the one who "distabilizes the nation, by taking away her ruler." problem is we are the rulers, not them.

So pursue at your own risk. We will still keep going, with a revolution, it is simple to have a set goal, but with this one, returning to conservative values, based upon the foundation for this countries government found in the Constitution, should stay very much in the forefront until enough people wake up; and allow for freedom to really take hold.

If Mccain and the rest of them are right, and we are hated for our freedoms, then we are the next targets. But for some reason I just can't believe that. :-)

Each group that splits from the major movement will have a goal, maybe it will be accomplished, maybe not, but with each goal it represents but a small step in the right direction, each one a victory, as long as this message stays alive, in but one person, it will be heard.
 
Imho.....

It's not too late! We need to get RonPaul into office, or any high position of power.We've got Cindy Shehan running for ( house of Reps?). Now that's a combo I'd like to see! :) I would love Impeachment, but would settle for a long trip to the Hague. The entire bunch! Bush, Cheney, Condi, even Pelosi if she continues to ignore the will of the people! This includes the aides and secratarys that passed the memos for torture, and other hideous warcrimes! No mercy from me!! ( love Poker Face!) :)
 
9 months and he's out of the office anyways. I dont see a purpose to impeachment proceedings at this time.

And I'm not really fond of the idea of kicking Bush out of the presidency to make Cheney the president.
 
Impeachment will solve nothing. You don't think the entire top tier is under control? Even if we were succesful we would just pass the buck to the next guy in line. He will step right in and carry on the same course. Be careful of Naomi Wolf. If she is as smart as you think why is she trying to sell Obama?
 
If by impeachment you mean taking over the federal gov't through the election of Ron Paul supporters over the next few years, then yes, let's impeach Congress and the President.

The President has been terrible, obviously. But I am so sick and tired of people ignoring the fact that Congress has been just as terrible. They do their job, we're not in the mess we are now. Period.
 
Well, what do you propose? Keep in mind this is at least a couple of years late. It would be far more reasonable to get him arrested some time AFTER he leaves the white house for war crimes or other legal reasons.

If you are someone who believes in God.....I ask you to pray that the neocons are taken down by the DC madam's alleged suicide in the mother of all scandals......

I wish nothing more for the whole crew of neocons in the white house to be taken down by her alleged suicide.....

If enough of us cry out for justice to the creator for all the innocent blood on the hands of the neocons, I believe the DC madam's alleged suicide can be the mechanism to finally bring these warmongering killers to justice........I am sure their actions killed many who were deserving in the eyes of god, but i also believe they also killed many who were innocent, they need to be brought to justice for their indiscretion.......
 
Impeachment now would be a joke and waste of time

Lets see impeach bush we're left with cheney, impeach cheney, we're left with Nancy Pelosi(AAAGGGHHHH)


No thanks I'll wait 9 months
 
Impeachment will solve nothing. You don't think the entire top tier is under control? Even if we were succesful we would just pass the buck to the next guy in line. He will step right in and carry on the same course. Be careful of Naomi Wolf. If she is as smart as you think why is she trying to sell Obama?
+1
 
Ron Paul will not be the next President of the United States. If this is to be a realistic revolution, the goal should be to elect people to Congress who share Paul's views. All it takes is a dozen or so people voting in a bloc to have a tremendous effect on close votes in the House. Right now there are dozens of candidates running for Congress who share Paul's views. Jesse Ventura might even be starting up a Presidential run (perhaps Paul could become Vice President).
 
Ron Paul is a one in a million man. I'm not sure if we elected an entire new congress if we'd see the same type of dedication, devotion, honesty and integrity we have in Paul. As Ron stated in a debate, he came to Washington, but Washington didn't change him. I fear too many people want in the position of power to try to change things, but would eventually give way for special interests for their own gain.
 
9 months and he's out of the office anyways. I dont see a purpose to impeachment proceedings at this time.

And I'm not really fond of the idea of kicking Bush out of the presidency to make Cheney the president.

I do..every day he is there is a day something he is doing to undermine this country. He and Cheny should be immediately removed to a place of little power, thereby, hopefully, making it easier to repudiate any agreements he has made recently with other countries.
 
Ron Paul is a one in a million man. I'm not sure if we elected an entire new congress if we'd see the same type of dedication, devotion, honesty and integrity we have in Paul. As Ron stated in a debate, he came to Washington, but Washington didn't change him. I fear too many people want in the position of power to try to change things, but would eventually give way for special interests for their own gain.

I disagree. There are many who go to Congress, serve a few terms, and vanish. People like this are good for the system, regardless of their political views. They're not all-consumed by the power of Washington. The people who stick around for an entire career often are consumed by the power, but Ron Paul's rare combination of being both uncorrupt and long-term is not totally unheard of, and I don't think that the tendency to become corrupted is argument enough to write off a strategy of sending like-minded citizens to Congress. We are a lobby. If we become powerful enough, we gain the ability to remove a person from power as easily as we put them in power.
 
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