If there is Martial Law question?

[CountryMe]

I hope I heard this wrong or just misunderstood but if Martial
Law is declared before the election then it would stop the
election from taking place and whoever is in power which in
this case is Bush, would be dictator for 8 years???????

Someone tell me......It ain't so!!!!

 

[nate895]

They'd be virtual dictator for the duration of the "emergency."

 

[awake]

10 yr depression... 10 more years.

 

[2young2vote]

I don't think he would be dictator. Hmm..300,000,000 pissed, armed Americans VS the Army...that would make a good book and movie. They would probably appoint someone else as president.

 

[nate895]

I don't think he would be dictator. Hmm..300,000,000 pissed, armed Americans VS the Army...that would make a good book and movie. They would probably appoint someone else as president.

And at least half the Army would be on the people's side.

 

[CountryMe]

I don't know, I mean it seems at least a third of the people are totally
asleep, another third starting to wake up but not quite there yet, and
with Congress and the media convincing so many people everything they
say is truth until would there really be enough uprising??? Something to think
about. I know it's starting to get scary to me.

Bush and Congress would probably convince everyone it is in their
best interest to have the guns removed, etc.

 

[nate895]

I don't know, I mean it seems at least a third of the people are totally
asleep, another third starting to wake up but not quite there yet, and
with Congress and the media convincing so many people everything they
say is truth until would there really be enough uprising??? Something to think
about. I know it's starting to get scary to me.

Bush and Congress would probably convince everyone it is in their
best interest to have the guns removed, etc.

In those situations, all it takes is a couple of crazies and then the whole country is on fire. The colonies weren't going to rebel until a few crazy Minutemen in Lexington, and a few more in Concord, stood up to the British Army. Since I'm not that crazy, I don't know who'd do it.

 

[CountryMe]

And at least half the Army would be on the people's side.

The following is what I heard in a video with the link at the end of the quote!

When a survey was given to Marines at 29 Palms Base (in Southern California)
to Army Special Operations Recruits and the survey asked troops if they would swear to the following code "45. I would swear to the following code: I am a United Nations fighting person. I serve in the forces which maintain world peace and every nations way of life. I am prepared to give my life in their defense." This survey also asked
if these US Military men would fire upon US Citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of fire arms banned by the US Government.

So, folks this pretty much shows what can happen and everyone needs to be aware of all this stuff. I really would love to know what Ron Paul would say about this?

This video points out our Government does not want to get this information out
as this manual says to destroy it by any means to prevent its dissimulation!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNKMlhj4ARY

 

[TruthAtLast]

Our army isn't that big is it? It can't be more than a half a million troops. (purely hypothetical) what if we all just joined the armed forces? haha

200-300 thousand Ron Paul supporters join the army, take it over and take back our country. I know it is far fetched but after the crap we've seen this election, sometimes I think that would be easier than defeating the MSM and the two party political system.

 

[misericordia]

^^^^ best idea yet.

 

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

Yeah, I don't think Bush would be the public face of Martial Law. They would have some totally new puppet, either Obama or Palin or maybe even a corrupted General who goes along with it. Some bankers and powerful interests allegedly wanted to put General Smedly Butler in power in the 1930s as a public face for outright dictatorship, but Butler was against the idea after approached and blew their cover, so the coup never came.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Our army isn't that big is it? It can't be more than a half a million troops. (purely hypothetical) what if we all just joined the armed forces? haha

200-300 thousand Ron Paul supporters join the army, take it over and take back our country. I know it is far fetched but after the crap we've seen this election, sometimes I think that would be easier than defeating the MSM and the two party political system.

It would take many years to infiltrate the heirarchy. Plus, you would have to carry out aggressive policies that you don't agree with.

 

[pepperpete1]

My son served in the Marines

The following is what I heard in a video with the link at the end of the quote!

When a survey was given to Marines at 29 Palms Base (in Southern California)
to Army Special Operations Recruits and the survey asked troops if they would swear to the following code "45. I would swear to the following code: I am a United Nations fighting person. I serve in the forces which maintain world peace and every nations way of life. I am prepared to give my life in their defense." This survey also asked
if these US Military men would fire upon US Citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of fire arms banned by the US Government.

So, folks this pretty much shows what can happen and everyone needs to be aware of all this stuff. I really would love to know what Ron Paul would say about this?

This video points out our Government does not want to get this information out
as this manual says to destroy it by any means to prevent its dissimulation!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNKMlhj4ARY

He did not serve in the special forces but was given that survey. This was before the war in Iraq. His was response to would you shoot a family member, friend, or any civilian for civil disobedience, was , no. Did that video (sorry I have dial up and it would take 2 hours to down load) say what the results of the survey were. If my memory is correct, 80% of the Marines said "no".

 

[hillbilly123069]

Yup!
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/04/ED5OUPQJ7.DTL

 

[CountryMe]

my understanding and I could be wrong but the code that they had to swear to states they "would fire upon US Citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of fire arms banned by the US Government,"

 

[CountryMe]

Yup!
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/04/ED5OUPQJ7.DTL

Oh my goodness part of this reads

"The Military Commissions Act of 2006, rammed through Congress just before the 2006 midterm elections, allows for the indefinite imprisonment of anyone who donates money to a charity that turns up on a list of "terrorist" organizations, or who speaks out against the government's policies. The law calls for secret trials for citizens and noncitizens alike."

The part of the above that reads "or who speaks out against the government's policies."

So according to that we could not even say we are against the income tax, against the war, or anything such as that. Man.

And another part of the article:

"A clue as to where Harman's commission might be aiming is the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act, a law that labels those who "engage in sit-ins, civil disobedience, trespass, or any other crime in the name of animal rights" as terrorists. Other groups in the crosshairs could be anti-abortion protesters, anti-tax agitators, immigration activists, environmentalists, peace demonstrators, Second Amendment rights supporters ... the list goes on and on. According to author Naomi Wolf, the National Counterterrorism Center holds the names of roughly 775,000 "terror suspects" with the number increasing by 20,000 per month."

According to that our freedom of speech is gone! And of course no one can get together and plan attacks or be violent, things like that but that is not everything that the above is saying.

 

[Vote Waterman 2028]

And at least half the Army would be on the people's side.

Not if they were of the persuasion that it was best for the country and people as a whole. My dad is in the military and ive been around armed forces all my life. Believe me, if they think its for the good of the country they are going to do it. they might even go russian style and shoot any traitor soldiers who try to flee from the battle.

 

[CountryMe]

I asked my husband, a veteran, if he had been told he had to take that oath about killing american citizens would he, and of course he said, "No" and then went on to say he knew that would probably mean court martial.

Ok people, we really need to spread all this stuff NOW while we still can because if Martial Law is declared that is when we no longer will have our freedom of speech??? Or is it already gone according to The Military Commissions Act of 2006?????

 

[CountryMe]

Oh my goodness part of this reads

"The Military Commissions Act of 2006, rammed through Congress just before the 2006 midterm elections, allows for the indefinite imprisonment of anyone who donates money to a charity that turns up on a list of "terrorist" organizations, or who speaks out against the government's policies. The law calls for secret trials for citizens and noncitizens alike."

The part of the above that reads "or who speaks out against the government's policies."

So according to that we could not even say we are against the income tax, against the war, or anything such as that. Man.

And another part of the article:

"A clue as to where Harman's commission might be aiming is the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act, a law that labels those who "engage in sit-ins, civil disobedience, trespass, or any other crime in the name of animal rights" as terrorists. Other groups in the crosshairs could be anti-abortion protesters, anti-tax agitators, immigration activists, environmentalists, peace demonstrators, Second Amendment rights supporters ... the list goes on and on. According to author Naomi Wolf, the National Counterterrorism Center holds the names of roughly 775,000 "terror suspects" with the number increasing by 20,000 per month."

According to that our freedom of speech is gone! And of course no one can get together and plan attacks or be violent, things like that but that is not everything that the above is saying.

I was hoping some of you would know if the above in this article means as of The Military Commissions Act of 2006, does it mean we have already lost our freedom of speech? Or does it mean only if Martial Law is declared then we could no longer speak out against government policies, or have peaceful demonstrations, etc. ???

 

[freelance]

I was hoping some of you would know if the above in this article means as of The Military Commissions Act of 2006, does it mean we have already lost our freedom of speech? Or does it mean only if Martial Law is declared then we could no longer speak out against government policies, or have peaceful demonstrations, etc. ???

It's intentionally left to the imagination, just like most of the new laws. IOW, it means whatever they want it to mean in any given situation.