I heard Tony Blair say last night that Jesus would have been a socialist

[Rhys]

He was on the BBC talking about his new Tony Blair Faith Foundation. The interviewer asked if he still thinks Jesus would be a socialist today, and he skirted around the answer saying "progressives blah blah" but essentially said yes, he does still think Jesus would have been an evil commie bastard.

 

[MRoCkEd]

robinhood would be a socialist
not sure about jesus - seems he would be a pro-life libertarian who advocated personal charity and volunteer assistance to the needy

 

[OptionsTrader]

God is a noninterventionist, and so should be the government. Economically and in foreign policy.

 

[born2drv]

He was on the BBC talking about his new Tony Blair Faith Foundation. The interviewer asked if he still thinks Jesus would be a socialist today, and he skirted around the answer saying "progressives blah blah" but essentially said yes, he does still think Jesus would have been an evil commie bastard.

Things have changed quite a bit in the past 2000 years People have the ability to go from poverty, to wealth, and back to poverty all based on the fruits of their labor, not on which family they were born into, their skin color, religion, etc. So while he may have been a communist back then, who's to say he would still be one today? Doesn't it say in the bible, "teach a man to fish"?

 

[SLSteven]

Jesus said "Give unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar's"

 

[Ozwest]

God is a noninterventionist, and so should be the government. Economically and in foreign policy.

"God is a noninterventionalist."

Gotta laugh.

 

[Christianalwaysg124RP]

Actually the religious leaders of the day historically were people in dealing with the government. Jesus went against this kind of atitude saying "My Kingdom is not of this world."(John 18:36) Jesus had compassion on the poor telling the disciples "whatever you do to the least of these my bretheren you do it unto me."(referring to the Jewish people and all living in the area. Meaning all poor people, essentially)

Jesus set up a system of giving to the poor to the apostles. He did, but Jesus and the apostles clearly taught the the giving was to be done by the church.(not the responsibility of the government)


There is one scripture where you could say socialism was taught. This is in Acts 2 after Peter gave his message on the feast of Pentecost. It talks about the disciples dividing their goods. This does not mean they were socialist. First of all, we have to remember the history of the passage. It was written during the time when money wasn't as it was today.(as most of you know about the FRS know this fact) Unlike today's terminology, wealth and money meant two different things. Wealth was the inheritance you owned. Money was the currency you owned. Some people could be wealthy, but very rich. Usually, in your society, if you are rich you are also wealthy. Secondly, we have to remember that the goal wasn't so that communism could occur. Communism is when there is no rich and poor.(which is impossible) The disciple, even though they divided their goods, always had different wealth when compared to the other. In fact, if you read Acts chapter 5, with Annianias, you can see communism didn't happen.

 

[Christianalwaysg124RP]

The founders understood that the bible teaches a constitutional and limited government. Even when Israel was under an earthly King, God gave him a Constitution(the Torah) for him to restrict himself from power. (which is why Thomas Jefferson taught a "wall of separation" between church and state)

Deu 17
18 When he takes the throne of his kingdom, he is to write for himself on a scroll a copy of this law, taken from that of the priests, who are Levites. 19 It is to be with him, and he is to read it all the days of his life so that he may learn to revere the LORD his God and follow carefully all the words of this law and these decrees 20 and not consider himself better than his brothers and turn from the law to the right or to the left. Then he and his descendants will reign a long time over his kingdom in Israel.

The bible teaches that Jesus was the only man in history to keep what I call the whole "Jewish Constitution"-the Torah.

 

[MsDoodahs]

Anarchist.

 

[mconder]

Jesus said "Give unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar's"

Which according to the current law (The Constitution) is a hell of a lot less than "Ceasar" should be getting.

 

[AmericaFyeah92]

he was mostly apolitical, but he did tell his followers not to worship Caesar as God, so i assume he would come out very strongly against totalitarianism, which is basically state-worship.

 

[Ozwest]

He was definitely an anarchist.

 

[AmericaFyeah92]

He was definitely an anarchist.

of which variety?

The "let's share everything" kind or the "get the hell of my property" kind?

 

[Ozwest]

of which variety?

The "let's share everything" kind or the "get the hell of my property" kind?

He was anti establishment, and a man of the people.

This is my interpretation of the scriptures.

Without doubt, many others will quote passages and interpret things differently.

That's Religion for you.

 

[rpfan2008]

Sometimes I wonder how Americans are so turned-off by the word 'socialism'. There are many socialist democracies around the world, its not communism. Communism is communism disguised in socialism. Soc is about listening to the poor and providing assistance to the (economically) weaker sections of the society. Gandhi was for a socialist democracy. In my country too food prices soared in the recent crisis but the most unaffected class was the poorest ones, in my state there are big floods every year which destroys the cultivations of many lowly(geographically) areas,but people seldom dies in hunger, because they are provided with subsidized ration at about 10%(net) of market price. And I can only see benefit ofthe system. Poor don't die.

But what holds fit here doesn't necessarily be the same for you.That's why I never criticize anyone for socialism in the forums.

 

[Ozwest]

Sometimes I wonder how Americans are so turned-off by the word 'socialism'. There are many socialist democracies around the world, its not communism. Communism is communism disguised in socialism. Soc is about listening to the poor and providing assistance to the (economically) weaker sections of the society. Gandhi was for a socialist democracy. In my country too food prices soared in the recent crisis but the most unaffected class was the poorest ones, in my state there are big floods every year which destroys the cultivations of many lowly(geographically) areas,but people seldom dies in hunger, because they are provided with subsidized ration at about 10%(net) of market price. And I can only see benefit ofthe system. Poor don't die.

But what holds fit here doesn't necessarily be the same for you.That's why I never criticize anyone for socialism in the forums.

America is a corporate socialist state with ever increasing fascist leanings.

Now.

Sorry...

 

[pcosmar]

Tony Blair is a member of the Fabian Society.
Their symbol and Coat of Arms is a wolf in sheep's clothing.
The CFR is a spin off of the Fabian Society.
Their stated goal is a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT under the control of a wealthy elite.

Research folks.

I really don't care what Tony Blair has to say about anything.

 

[Christianalwaysg124RP]

Sometimes I wonder how Americans are so turned-off by the word 'socialism'. There are many socialist democracies around the world, its not communism. Communism is communism disguised in socialism. Soc is about listening to the poor and providing assistance to the (economically) weaker sections of the society. Gandhi was for a socialist democracy. In my country too food prices soared in the recent crisis but the most unaffected class was the poorest ones, in my state there are big floods every year which destroys the cultivations of many lowly(geographically) areas,but people seldom dies in hunger, because they are provided with subsidized ration at about 10%(net) of market price. And I can only see benefit ofthe system. Poor don't die.

But what holds fit here doesn't necessarily be the same for you.That's why I never criticize anyone for socialism in the forums.

I believe in welfare too. I believe in charitable welfare, not government controlled welfare. We, Ron Paul supporters like government doing the very least. Only doing what is absolutely needed in a democratic republic.

 

[AutoDas]

rpfan2008, what country are you speaking of?

 

[Truth Warrior]

Tony Blair is an idiot too, and TPTB sock puppet NWO agenda lackey and public mouthpiece tool.