How are they going to do this????

[1913_to_2008]

How do they plan on protecting from voter fraud. It didn't seem very organized for Iowa. I've seen threads that say don't worry HQ has a plan but, they never tell what the plan is.

If you're ignorant on the subject don't flame me. Go flame some other sheep like yourselves.

 

[Diana]

How do they plan on protecting from voter fraud. It didn't seem very organized for Iowa. I've seen threads that say don't worry HQ has a plan but, they never tell what the plan is.

If you're ignorant on the subject don't flame me. Go flame some other sheep like yourselves.

I've learned not to trust that "HQ has a plan". I made a big error in believing that I was merely "duplicating efforts" made by HQ.

Each person needs to take responsibilty on themselves to become poll watchers. Call up their GOP and volunteer. Get people to the polls to vote themselves. Don't count on anything being done by anyone else.

 

[aspiringconstitutionalist]

How do they plan on protecting from voter fraud. It didn't seem very organized for Iowa. I've seen threads that say don't worry HQ has a plan but, they never tell what the plan is.

If you're ignorant on the subject don't flame me. Go flame some other sheep like yourselves.

I agree. I can't even count how many times people have been wailing "HQ HAS A PLAN, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING" and then hq totally blows it and proves over and over that they actually didn't have a plan.

I have no more trust in hq, period. What ARE we doing here?

 

[thoughtbombing]

http://www.votefraud.org ...

It happened to Buchanan as well!!!

http://www.votefraud.org/chronicles_house_without_doors.htm

 

[Mortikhi]

How do they plan on protecting from voter fraud. It didn't seem very organized for Iowa. I've seen threads that say don't worry HQ has a plan but, they never tell what the plan is.

If you're ignorant on the subject don't flame me. Go flame some other sheep like yourselves.

We need poll workers that are familiar with the election laws in your state.
They need to watch the count.
They need to make sure RP supporters can ballot and make sure those from other campaigns are ALLOWED to ballot at that location.
They need to video tape everything and let them know that they are being taped.
They need to stay after the vote to witness the count.
They need to watch everything!

 

[all J's in IL for RP]

I'm going to flame you for posting again about Voter Fraud without yourself doing something about it. Are you that concerned? Then go to NH, join the campaign and volunteer to be an observer. What is not productive is sitting here in a vacuum posting dark thoughts and stirring the pot for those paranoids among us. Taking screen shots and quibbling about delayed results from a thousand miles away does nothing to verify anything but the massive distrust some hold in their heart for the process.

 

[Feelgood]

There is nothing at all that can be done. Without a paper trail, it is pointless. The Diebold systems have been well documented to be hackable and the results un-reliable. Why do you think they use them. It is the only way they have of fixing the elections.

 

[gb13]

Last night at the HQ in Concord, NH, I volunteered to be a poll watcher. The guy there sent the main HQ an email.

Haven't heard anything from HQ yet.

 

[1913_to_2008]

We need poll workers that are familiar with the election laws in your state.
They need to watch the count.
They need to make sure RP supporters can ballot and make sure those from other campaigns are ALLOWED to ballot at that location.
They need to video tape everything and let them know that they are being taped.
They need to stay after the vote to witness the count.
They need to watch everything!

Maybe we should set something up where the poll watchers call in the numbers for each precinct? If it's total computerized with no paper consider ourselves done.

 

[1913_to_2008]

I'm going to flame you for posting again about Voter Fraud without yourself doing something about it. Are you that concerned? Then go to NH, join the campaign and volunteer to be an observer. What is not productive is sitting here in a vacuum posting dark thoughts and stirring the pot for those paranoids among us.

And your post is productive? Do you have any suggestions on how to combat this rather than just "you go to NH and watch the votes" Ignorance is bliss isn't it pal?

I'm wondering how we can combat it on a mass scale.

 

[PimpBlimp]

I feel NH will be much much harder to rig than Iowa

 

[chiplitfam]

I just posted this concerning voter fraud.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=78807

 

[1913_to_2008]

Last night at the HQ in Concord, NH, I volunteered to be a poll watcher. The guy there sent the main HQ an email.

Haven't heard anything from HQ yet.

Let us know if they have a site for everyone to report the count to.

 

[chiplitfam]

The hard truth about voter fraud

You can watch the elections all day long, but the problem is in the electronic tabulation.. It is there where the votes are manipulated and transformed. There is a live program in the computer card that counts the votes and also rearranges the internal information so that it can't be traced or detected. It has been going on for a long time. They already know who their candidate is going to be. This is not science fiction. It is a horrible truth. The corrupt power structure is so strong, that people can not even imagine it, nor do they want to believe it. That is why the media will not truly investigate this problem or even crucially bring it to the forefront. The results Tuesday night will be very interesting. I pray I am wrong

 

[all J's in IL for RP]

And your post is productive? Do you have any suggestions on how to combat this rather than just "you go to NH and watch the votes" Ignorance is bliss isn't it pal?

I'm wondering how we can combat it on a mass scale.

No, getting in my car, going to Iowa to observe the vote and calling it in to the campaign was productive. Even though Ron didn't do well in my precinct, I was pleasantly surprised he came within 3% of getting third and beating every poll prediction released more than a week before the caucus. This is because I realized he didn't need to win to gain momentum. I return home to a whole bunch of negative shit from you votefraud keyboard commandos where people are looking at their TV's thinking they see thousands of votes disappearing.

I wasn't the one saying he was going to get first, and when he didn't, claim it was because he was cheated. I didn't PREMPT his not coming in 1st by saying he won't be allowed to win. Just because you've come to the conclusion Ron is the best candidate, don't assume everyone else has or they're crazy to vote otherwise. You've got to WORK for the votes. But I'm a realist. I don't know what you are.

So my suggestion is what I said in my initial post. If you're concerned, you should have volunteered yourself to be an observer. Better yet, you could volunteer to physically drive people to the polls so that the votes you ASSUME are there are ACTUALLY THERE. Everything else is bullshit.

 

[Cleaner44]

There is nothing at all that can be done. Without a paper trail, it is pointless. The Diebold systems have been well documented to be hackable and the results un-reliable. Why do you think they use them. It is the only way they have of fixing the elections.

I am sad that you have this attitude, you can help but if you chose not to, please stay out of the way.

I am in AZ so I can not vaote the precinct personally. I am organizing an effort to record all TV broadcasts though. I am doing what ever I can with what ideas I have.

I believe we need 2 person teams at ech precinct to record the tally before it is sent into the blackhole. We need to spread the word to Ron Paul supporters in evry precinct.

 

[Soccrmastr]

They get vote counters. Havent you been following? They are getting vote counters for every precinct, every candidate does that.

 

[Cleaner44]

You can watch the elections all day long, but the problem is in the electronic tabulation.. It is there where the votes are manipulated and transformed. There is a live program in the computer card that counts the votes and also rearranges the internal information so that it can't be traced or detected. It has been going on for a long time. They already know who their candidate is going to be. This is not science fiction. It is a horrible truth. The corrupt power structure is so strong, that people can not even imagine it, nor do they want to believe it. That is why the media will not truly investigate this problem or even crucially bring it to the forefront. The results Tuesday night will be very interesting. I pray I am wrong

Different methods for cheating are used in different places. We do not use Diabold machines in AZ but there are other ways to cheat. There are also ways to combact the cheaters.

I would ask that anyine that wants to help guard the vote for Ron Paul, please let's work together. Any of you naysayers please don't get in the way and try to tell us that there is nothing we can do. Failure is a state of mind.

 

[Cleaner44]

Does anyone here have the ability to record TV broadcasts and YouTube them?

 

[walt]

careful, I might have to ignore all of you...