"He's got a monkey!" Ron Paul: "He'd fit in well down there in DC!"?

[Knightskye]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwJKGfAWQUo

Okay, old video, but fast-forward to 15:13 and take a listen. Anyone want to take a crack at figuring out what Dr. Paul meant by that?

Someone: "He's got a monkey!"
Ron Paul: "He would fit in well down there in D.C.!"

 

[activeaero]

Because Washington DC is full of monkey business. You've never heard that term before lol?

 

[Telkandore]

Yeah that was a joke about politicians. It sounded like it might be vaguely racist but it wasn't at all. Luckily we're voting for him to run the country and not the Tonight Show .

 

[Noleader]

I would say he is talking about the Politicians... And he would be right.

 

[devil21]

Im not buying what you're selling with the monkey thing.

 

[Devil_rules_in_extremes]

Hahahahahaha!

 

[ambiguousscion]

Context is key to any interpretation and the context is non existent.

 

[PredatorOC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwJKGfAWQUo

Okay, old video, but fast-forward to 15:13 and take a listen. Anyone want to take a crack at figuring out what Dr. Paul meant by that?

Someone: "He's got a monkey!"
Ron Paul: "He would fit in well down there in D.C.!"

OMGZ!!! Paul is teh razist! Quick, inform tReason!

Ps. did someone actually look at the thread headline and draw a racist conclusion? The thought didn't even occur to me and I have no idea why it would to anyone else. My mental processes don't spit out 'people group X' in association to the word 'monkey'. But being a libertarian, I don't mind those whose do, as long as they don't initiate force based on it.

 

[Ira Aten]

Im not buying what you're selling with the monkey thing.

The reason you think it is a racist comment could well be, that you might have a tendancy to try to hide your own inner racism by recognizing your own thoughts, and attributing them to "racism" in others.

Not everyone believes black people are comparable to monkeys. In order to be of the opinion that Dr. Paul's comment was a racist one, you have to immediately think of blacks as being similar to monkeys.

Many folks have hidden inner racist feelings, which surface by taking opportunity to cry "racism" whenever another human opens their mouth, on just about any subject other than saying the word "Hello".

(The old saying "...the guilty dog barks first" kinda fits into that type of attitue)

Take Bill Clinton's 1993 statement, that "...African Americans watch television just like NORMAL Americans."

There are two ways to look at that comment. Clinton either believes blacks are not "normal" Americans, or he believes they are normal, but his inner racism surfaces, and in order to appear to "care more than others, he makes a "first strike" attempt to correct racist assumption he beleives others hold, even before anyone even opened their mouths.

Bill Clinton never was vilified for his comment (on BET television in 1993) but, had Ron Paul made that very same comment, the news media would have jumped all over it as "hate speech".

In todays media based society, racism is determined by the media, depending on who the current enemy of the mainstream media happens to be. They loved Clintonistas, so the comment was passed over without so much as a blink in the mainstream media at the time. (As evidenced by very few people even knowing he uttered the comment)

Instead, they crowned him "America's First Black President".

Since we have already handed out that title, it does seem to present a problem for Barak Obama, since he will have to be referred to as "The Nation's Second Black President".

(BTW, due to me making the above comment, I will invariably be accused of harboring racist comments, when in fact, it is a political statement. Regardless, if enough people read this comment, it will be interpreted as racist. It is a never ending problem, and each of us MIGHT be guilty of it at times.)

 

[John P Slevin]

Many folks have hidden inner racist feelings, which surface by taking opportunity to cry "racism" whenever another human opens their mouth, on just about any subject other than saying the word "Hello".

(The old saying "...the guilty dog barks first" kinda fits...

Agreed. Ruuuuf!

 

[eloquensanity]

The reason you think it is a racist comment could well be, that you might have a tendancy to try to hide your own inner racism by recognizing your own thoughts, and attributing them to "racism" in others.

Not everyone believes black people are comparable to monkeys. In order to be of the opinion that Dr. Paul's comment was a racist one, you have to immediately think of blacks as being similar to monkeys.

Many folks have hidden inner racist feelings, which surface by taking opportunity to cry "racism" whenever another human opens their mouth, on just about any subject other than saying the word "Hello".

(The old saying "...the guilty dog barks first" kinda fits into that type of attitue)

Take Bill Clinton's 1993 statement, that "...African Americans watch television just like NORMAL Americans."

There are two ways to look at that comment. Clinton either believes blacks are not "normal" Americans, or he believes they are normal, but his inner racism surfaces, and in order to appear to "care more than others, he makes a "first strike" attempt to correct racist assumption he beleives others hold, even before anyone even opened their mouths.

Bill Clinton never was vilified for his comment (on BET television in 1993) but, had Ron Paul made that very same comment, the news media would have jumped all over it as "hate speech".

In todays media based society, racism is determined by the media, depending on who the current enemy of the mainstream media happens to be. They loved Clintonistas, so the comment was passed over without so much as a blink in the mainstream media at the time. (As evidenced by very few people even knowing he uttered the comment)

Instead, they crowned him "America's First Black President".

Since we have already handed out that title, it does seem to present a problem for Barak Obama, since he will have to be referred to as "The Nation's Second Black President".

(BTW, due to me making the above comment, I will invariably be accused of harboring racist comments, when in fact, it is a political statement. Regardless, if enough people read this comment, it will be interpreted as racist. It is a never ending problem, and each of us MIGHT be guilty of it at times.)

Yes you hit the nail on the head. People DO try to hide their own racist tendencies by projecting it on to some one else.

If Dr Paul is anything like me (older over the hill person) it would never have entered his head, I didn't even know anyone even thought like that about monkeys till I read this thread. I guess we need a whole new language, one that cannot take words and change the meaning into something hateful and then blame it on some one as a racist comment. Its pathetic.

 

[VoluntaryMan]

OMGZ!!! Paul is teh razist! Quick, inform tReason!

Ps. did someone actually look at the thread headline and draw a racist conclusion? The thought didn't even occur to me and I have no idea why it would to anyone else. My mental processes don't spit out 'people group X' in association to the word 'monkey'. But being a libertarian, I don't mind those whose do, as long as they don't initiate force based on it.

No kidding: 1) You use the word "monkey" to characterize the wild stupidity of politicians, and the funny business in which they are perpetually engaged. 2) I miss the obvious reference, and instead my mind conconcts an association between that word and a particular racial group. 3) Who's the racist here?

 

[maeqFREEDOMfree]

if you think ron paul's a racist because of this comment, I think you are a jack ass. period.

 

[tommyzDad]

Yes you hit the nail on the head. People DO try to hide their own racist tendencies by projecting it on to some one else.

If Dr Paul is anything like me (older over the hill person) it would never have entered his head, I didn't even know anyone even thought like that about monkeys till I read this thread. I guess we need a whole new language, one that cannot take words and change the meaning into something hateful and then blame it on some one as a racist comment. Its pathetic.

+1.

Not for one millisecond did "blacks" or any "race" into my mind upon reading the thread title.
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[ShowMeLiberty]

OMGZ!!! Paul is teh razist! Quick, inform tReason!

Ps. did someone actually look at the thread headline and draw a racist conclusion? The thought didn't even occur to me and I have no idea why it would to anyone else. My mental processes don't spit out 'people group X' in association to the word 'monkey'. But being a libertarian, I don't mind those whose do, as long as they don't initiate force based on it.

I'm glad you said this because I thought I missed something when people were replying in the context of racism. It just didn't even occur to me.

"Monkey business", yeah. "Monkey on their backs", yeah - that was my first thought, really. Typical politicians are addicted to power and perks - the monkey on their backs.

 

[devil21]

The reason you think it is a racist comment could well be, that you might have a tendancy to try to hide your own inner racism by recognizing your own thoughts, and attributing them to "racism" in others.

Or maybe Im just sick of seeing threads about the TNR racist thing in the news sections and just happen to know that "monkey" is a sometimes used racial slur. Naaa, couldnt be that simple could it?