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Fred Thompson will drop out
Newsmax ^ | August 1, 2007 | John LeBoutillier

Posted on 08/02/2007 6:45:25 AM PDT by John Cena

Let’s take the beginning of August to step back and examine some political developments: 1) Fred Thompson — before he has even announced his candidacy — is beset with difficulties. He did not raise the amount of money his backers expected for his Exploratory Committee, and this should be easy because the first money a candidate raises is from his closest supporters, past donors and associates. The fact that he couldn’t even meet his own internal goal of $5 million (he raised about $3.5 million) shows big trouble for Thompson. He has already had a major staff shake-up, further evidence of a troubled campaign, and he hasn’t even announced his candidacy yet!

Many already speculate that Thompson will announce in September and drop out of the race by November.

He may already have peaked this summer and already be on the decline.

Plus, the more voters see him, the less impressed they will be.

2) The GOP race: with Thompson’s desultory performance and a reduced sense of enthusiasm for his candidacy, where does that leave things today?

McCain is a goner. Period. Gone. Finished. Kaput. Yeah, the MSM still gives him more credence than he deserves, but inside the GOP we know it is over for him.

That leaves Romney and Rudy Giuliani as of today.

Romney’s second quarter fundraising was way, way down, a worrisome indicator that people are cooling on him. The Mormon question and the flip-flopping are hurting him. He is doing very well in Iowa and his neighboring New Hampshire (he actually lives in New Hampshire) because he has spent heavily already on TV advertising there. But there is not much enthusiasm for him, either.

Rudy has basically abandoned Iowa; he blew off the upcoming Iowa Straw Ballot. He is trailing in New Hampshire. He seems to be gambling on the Florida primary to give him the momentum into mega-super Tuesday.

Rudy is strange . . . he has some strengths, but is fraught with trouble, too. He doesn’t fit the GOP at all, but there is such a vacuum on the right that anything can happen.

Romney and Rudy.

Can the GOP really be this desperate?

Or can another candidate emerge who can excite a moribund, dispirited GOP?

No doubt Ron Paul excites libertarians and will surprise at the Iowa Straw Ballot. But he isn’t The One. He is a good guy, a bit old, no TV pizzazz, which is a must these days, and isn’t going to win the GOP nomination.

Newt, undisciplined and unelectable, keeps trolling to see if there is interest in him yet. He is provocative and entertaining and makes news. But he isn’t the answer either.

No wonder the party, and the conservative movement, are down in the dumps. Bush wooed everyone and then sold our principles down the river.

We need someone exciting - who through his or her presence - turns the GOP on and makes us proud again. Yeah, if Hillary is the Democratic nominee we’ll all band together to vote against her. But wouldn’t it also be wonderful to have someone to vote for?

We need a new start — and soon.

3) The Democrats: don’t buy into this “Hillary is inevitable” nonsense. Yes, she does well today in these name-ID national polls. But in individual states she is in trouble. She trails in Iowa and South Carolina and is tied with Obama in New Hampshire.

As the presumptive front-runner, to lose in these early states will doom her candidacy. When a front-runner stumbles, it is magnified. And she may be in for a stumble.

Obama has finally started to take the gloves off. Meanwhile, while John Edwards has his wife attack Hillary for him.

And then Hillary has Bill Clinton answer Obama for her.

What kind of candidates are these?

Can’t they do their own campaigning?

Why do their spouses have to do it for them?

It’s pretty weak, and the Republicans can use it against them later on. For example, when Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says something awful is our next President’s husband or wife going to do the responding? Pathetic
 
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No doubt Ron Paul excites libertarians and will surprise at the Iowa Straw Ballot. But he isn’t The One. He is a good guy, a bit old, no TV pizzazz, which is a must these days, and isn’t going to win the GOP nomination.

First he describes his frustration over no excitement. And then says RP isn't the one because he is too old?!?!?

One day these guys will jump on the bandwagon. They are getting closer. Now instead of saying he doesn't have a shot they are making weak excuses, one day they will jump too.
 
First he describes his frustration over no excitement. And then says RP isn't the one because he is too old?!?!?

One day these guys will jump on the bandwagon. They are getting closer. Now instead of saying he doesn't have a shot they are making weak excuses, one day they will jump too.

Let's be honest, he doesn't have 'pizazz,' but the author is incorrect in saying it is a must these days. I think Ron Paul's message has all the pizazz needed. You're right though, one day they will jump on board. Didn't capitalhillblue jump on board already?
 
Let's be honest, he doesn't have 'pizazz,' but the author is incorrect in saying it is a must these days. I think Ron Paul's message has all the pizazz needed. You're right though, one day they will jump on board. Didn't capitalhillblue jump on board already?

You are right he doesn't have pizazz in the traditional sense, but he has pizazz and charisma in his own way. He is not like Al Gore who bores you to death. When he speaks you listen because you know what he is telling you is the truth. Plus when everyone is trying to outshout each other his humbleness becomes even more appealing.
 
Maybe I'm being naive here, but I think one of the things that attracts people to Ron Paul is that fact that he doesn't have a slicked, oily, politician look about him. He speaks the truth, he sounds like the truth and he looks like the truth. I think his image goes along with his message. I think people are tired of being swindled and hoodwinked by greasy politcians.
 
i think fred thompson is being pressured to run, and isn't that into it.

he could really win at some point, and that point is not now.
 
Al Gore was always reciting... something. Ron Paul has a natural uncoached quality. Probably because he is natural. And uncoached. Politically speaking these days that is pretty pizzazzy all on its own.

Imagine that - someone who knows what he's talking about, and just tells the truth.

Not to harp on my own video, but do we really elect people because they are popular, have rich friends and good hair? I was frustrated about that in high school too. Can't we be mature about this hiring decision?
 
John LeBoutillier (and many others) will probably endorse Ron Paul as soon as Paul consistently gets 5% in the national polls.
 
Fred's Skeleton

My brother is in the TV business. He used to work in NYC. He told me heard about some unusual habits that Fred Thompson had; of a sexual nature. Maybe that's what Fred's worried about and is reluctant to officially declare because he would be publicly humiliated.
 
Make NO doubts about it....Fred Thompson WILL be a problem in the end.

I just hope we can recruit enough RP's to stave him off.

ALOT of people are voting for him more than guys that are already declared...that should tell you something.
 
i think fred thompson is being pressured to run, and isn't that into it.

he could really win at some point, and that point is not now.

This was the impression that I got too. It's like he's supposed to run, but isn't going to until he isn't left with a choice, trying to make just enough waves to be happy, but not enough to get elected, and maybe just enough to have to run against the Democratic candidate - and ultimately lose.

Conspiracy, dun dun dun.
 
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Fred Thompson will drop out
Newsmax ^ | August 1, 2007 | John LeBoutillier

Posted on 08/02/2007 6:45:25 AM PDT by John Cena

Let’s take the beginning of August to step back and examine some political developments: 1) Fred Thompson — before he has even announced his candidacy — is beset with difficulties...

He may already have peaked this summer and already be on the decline.

Plus, the more voters see him, the less impressed they will be.


WHY worry about Fred ? DON'T forget 9 or 10 warmongers split the vote 9 or 10 ways, all RP needs is the anti-war vote if the warmongers split the vote in a favorable way for RP. We don't need for anyone to dropout for RP to win. We just have to find and motivate the natural RP voters.

2) The GOP race: with Thompson’s desultory performance and a reduced sense of enthusiasm for his candidacy, where does that leave things today?

McCain is a goner. Period. Gone. Finished. Kaput. Yeah, the MSM still gives him more credence than he deserves, but inside the GOP we know it is over for him.

That leaves Romney and Rudy Giuliani as of today.

. . . .

Romney and Rudy.

Can the GOP really be this desperate?

The opposition isn't very good, So it will be easier for RP to win !!!

Or can another candidate emerge who can excite a moribund, dispirited GOP?

NO, it's too late !

No doubt Ron Paul excites libertarians and will surprise at the Iowa Straw Ballot. But he isn’t The One. He is a good guy, a bit old, no TV pizzazz, which is a must these days, and isn’t going to win the GOP nomination.

This is just a propaganda hit peice probably using supplied talking points on RP. First he does't mention the excitement among independents and the youth, just libertarians and let's be honest about that, most people don't know who libertarians are or think negative of them and some of their "extreme"(to the general public) ideas. He then places expectations high for RP in the upcoming straw poll when the expectations should actually be very low. Dr. Paul has only been in Iowa twice while some competitors have been there dozens of times ! And quarter billion dollar WILLARY Romney already has this sham bought off ! In a Presidential campaign you always want to place expectations low and always exceed them to be successful !!! He then tries to place in peoples minds that RP isn't the "ONE", he is old & dull and ISN't going to win ! Just blatant PROPAGANDA.
Let's see ? Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, Geo.H.W. Bush, Geo.W. Bush, PIZZAZZ ? I DON"T THINK SO !!! America elects alot of people without pizzazz !!!




Newt, undisciplined and unelectable, keeps trolling to see if there is interest in him yet. He is provocative and entertaining and makes news. But he isn’t the answer either.

No wonder the party, and the conservative movement, are down in the dumps. Bush wooed everyone and then sold our principles down the river.

AMEN to all this !

...

3) The Democrats: don’t buy into this “Hillary is inevitable” nonsense. Yes, she does well today in these name-ID national polls. But in individual states she is in trouble. She trails in Iowa and South Carolina and is tied with Obama in New Hampshire.

As the presumptive front-runner, to lose in these early states will doom her candidacy. When a front-runner stumbles, it is magnified. And she may be in for a stumble.

I wholeheartily DISAGREE on this, HILLARY is the CHOSEN ONE ! She will be the Dems nominee.

Obama has finally started to take the gloves off. Meanwhile, while John Edwards has his wife attack Hillary for him.

And then Hillary has Bill Clinton answer Obama for her.

What kind of candidates are these?

Can’t they do their own campaigning?

Why do their spouses have to do it for them?

It’s pretty weak, and the Republicans can use it against them later on. For example, when Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says something awful is our next President’s husband or wife going to do the responding? Pathetic

You let your spouse answer because they won't be attacked too viciously in return and you can kind of deny that you knew what your spouse was going to say. In Edwards case a woman took on Hillary and it doesn't look as bad as a man attacking a woman ! The public could be very negative toward a man attacking a woman in a campaign. So all of Hillary's opponents must be careful !!!
 
I haven't decided if he's a good or bad thing to have in the race. Good: he further dilutes the pro-war vote in the Republican primaries. Bad: He's seen as the "Reaganite", false though it may be.
 
i think fred thompson is being pressured to run, and isn't that into it.

he could really win at some point, and that point is not now.

I think youre right about being pressured to run............. but what the hell?????????? is this high school or something? COME ON FRED DRINK IT...... YOULL BE COOL
 
I think Freddy boy has overplayed his hand. He's already fast becoming yesterday's news and he hasn't even announced he's running yet.

It could be yet another piece to the perfect storm required to get Paul the GOP nomination.
 
I think youre right about being pressured to run............. but what the hell?????????? is this high school or something? COME ON FRED DRINK IT...... YOULL BE COOL

I believe I heard on the news somewhere that Bush & co. were pressuring him to run/giving him money. That's the likely scenario.
 
I haven't decided if he's a good or bad thing to have in the race. Good: he further dilutes the pro-war vote in the Republican primaries. Bad: He's seen as the "Reaganite", false though it may be.

I actually read a piece that described ROMNEY as the "Reaganesque" GOP candidate. WTF? I mean I think the one Reaganesque attribute of Romney is that they both supported abortion and then changed position on it.
 
My brother is in the TV business. He used to work in NYC. He told me heard about some unusual habits that Fred Thompson had; of a sexual nature. Maybe that's what Fred's worried about and is reluctant to officially declare because he would be publicly humiliated.

What type of habits if you could elaborate ?
 
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