Extending an olive branch to Huckabees supporters

[Sematary]

I've been waiting all day for an email so I could post this on their forums but I don't have all day and patience is definitely NOT one of my virtues. So, since I know that supporters of Huckabee are reading these forums, please post this in your forums for me.

We have a common problem and that common problem is the Supreme Courts decision to take on the 2nd amendment case from DC.
I'm sure, as not only activists for our respective candidates but also as activists for America and firm believers in the true meaning of the 2nd amendment that we can work together on petitioning our respective candidates and our Congressman/women in general to craft legislation NOW that will protect the 2nd amendment from a court that seems determined to destroy the fabric of American society but completely ignoring the true intent of the founders and doing whatever it is they feel like doing.

So, I'm extending an olive branch. I think that this particular issue transcends politics in that it is a bigger issue than our candidates. We both believe that our candidate will take whatever steps are necessary to protect the 2nd amendment once in office but it can't wait that long. So, we need to work together and bring in other groups too.

 

[jashepard]

here here, like I said last night to huckabee supporters it's about the people, and they have a good ground support of them.

 

[Jaykzo]

Come on in, Huckabite's, the water's fine. And don't be scared if you find out you want to stay

Something tells me that in the long run, you really don't want a 23% flat tax AND a neverending war...

 

[Sematary]

here here, like I said last night to huckabee supporters it's about the people, and they have a good ground support of them.

I have alot of respect for them as a grassroots. They don't have the sheer numbers that we do, but they are just as passionate about their candidate. We disagree on several issues, especially the need to use government to enforce morality, which is my major concern with MH beyond the fact that he is still in line with GB on the damn war.

Either way - the SCOTUS is putting the nation in a position to become defenseless against tyranny and that cannot be allowed and despite the other differences, I believe we agree with them on the 2nd amendment.

 

[Zydeco]

I too welcome Huckabee supporters. Huckabee is not a CFR member and that counts for something in my book.

 

[Sematary]

Come on in, Huckabite's, the water's fine. And don't be scared if you find out you want to stay

Something tells me that in the long run, you really don't want a 23% flat tax AND a neverending war...

No name calling! It's rude and childish. Let's keep this on an adult level and try to overcome a common issue, ok?

 

[Zydeco]

And can certain Ron Paul supporters please cut it out with the COINTELPRO-style crap on hucksarmy.com? It doesn't make us look good.

 

[Sematary]

And can certain Ron Paul supporters please cut it out with the COINTELPRO-style crap on hucksarmy.com? It doesn't make us look good.

I don't believe any of those supporters are on these forums but that is off topic and belongs in another thread. In this ONE instance, we need to work WITH them so let's stick to the subject, shall we?

P.S. - If I'm not mistaken, this "revoultion" is about preserving our rights and liberties. Well, you know what? If the SCOTUS shreds the 2nd amendment, it's game over so let's get on the ball. This is far bigger than presidential politics at this point.

 

[10thAmendmentMan]

Either way - the SCOTUS is putting the nation in a position to become defenseless against tyranny and that cannot be allowed and despite the other differences, I believe we agree with them on the 2nd amendment.

It's up to the lawyers to argue properly and for the judges to use some modicum of common sense when ruling. It's out of our hands; there's nothing we can do now... Unless you happen to be able to somehow seduce one of the judges and make him/her rule to your whim.

 

[Jaykzo]

No name calling! It's rude and childish. Let's keep this on an adult level and try to overcome a common issue, ok?

Err...

Was that sarcasm?

 

[Sematary]

It's up to the lawyers to argue properly and for the judges to use some modicum of common sense when ruling. It's out of our hands; there's nothing we can do now... Unless you happen to be able to somehow seduce one of the judges and make him/her rule to your whim.

You are incorrect, sir. We CAN do something and that SOMETHING is to get our representatives to pre-empt any possible erosion or erradication of the 2nd amendment by clarifying it with statute NOW!

 

[LFOD]

I'm not going to play footsie with Huckabee supporters. They're going to vote for Huckabee until he gives it up, and then they can spend their time thinking about whether to vote for Hillary or Ron.

 

[Sematary]

I'm not going to play footsie with Huckabee supporters. They're going to vote for Huckabee until he gives it up, and then they can spend their time thinking about whether to vote for Hillary or Ron.

I'm not asking you to "play footsie" with them. I'm asking you to look beyond the presidential race for a moment and realize that if the right to bear arms is taken away, there may not BE a presidential election.

 

[Hook]

I'm not asking you to "play footsie" with them. I'm asking you to look beyond the presidential race for a moment and realize that if the right to bear arms is taken away, there may not BE a presidential election.

Oh, there will be, just not voted on in the usual manner.

 

[Hook]

You are incorrect, sir. We CAN do something and that SOMETHING is to get our representatives to pre-empt any possible erosion or erradication of the 2nd amendment by clarifying it with statute NOW!

Sorry, but no statute is going to override a Supreme Court ruling on the Constitutionality of some law. That is the whole point of determining Constitutionality.

 

[Sematary]

Sorry, but no statute is going to override a Supreme Court ruling on the Constitutionality of some law. That is the whole point of determining Constitutionality.

A statute that states CLEARLY that the 2nd amendment DOES guarantee the right of all Americans to keep and bear arms as it states in the constitution will put an end to this stupidity.

 

[literatim]

I have no respect for people that want to vote us into a one world government.

 

[davidhperry]

Here is another common problem that some Ron Paul supporters share with many of the Huckabee people: ending abortions. Regardless of where folks stand on this issue, I think that the majority want to see less abortions - if not eradicated altogether (as I do). Many people who are pro-choice maintain the belief that it was poorly decided by the Supreme Court.

People have been trying to overturn Roe v. Wade for over three decades and so far it hasn't been successful. Unfortunately, I don't think it will be successful any time soon with the way things are going. Many people elected GWB with the expectation that he would be "the one" to overturn that poor decision. The way process works, many things would have to be aligned all at once in order to change the current state of affairs. I think we fool ourselves if we don't realize this.

With all that said, I do believe that Ron Paul's idea of completely removing the jurisdiction from the SC is the best way to deal with this issue. As Dr. Paul indicated, all it would require would be a vote in congress and then the President signs it into law - that's it. Done. Then, the states would be free to stop abortions and I'm sure many would act on that quickly since most people oppose them. So almost over night, we could drastically reduce the number of abortions out there. For the few states that hold out, we could focus on them more specifically since the effort would be more localized.

If we do what Huckabee is advocating, we're talking about waging lengthy court battles and/or a long process to amend the US constitution. The founders deliberately made it very difficult to make any sort of changes to the constitution.

For the many people who are single-issue voters about abortion, it's clear that Ron Paul's approach is the most effective and practical way to go about it. I haven't read them but he's also written two whole books on this very subject.

 

[Cindy]

I'm not going to play footsie with Huckabee supporters. They're going to vote for Huckabee until he gives it up, and then they can spend their time thinking about whether to vote for Hillary or Ron.

Semetary was just suggesting that huckabee supporters who are active, may want to know what is happening with the assasination attempt on the 2nd ammendment, and may want to join the independent efforts to do something to stop it.

 

[RPinSEAZ]

A statute that states CLEARLY that the 2nd amendment DOES guarantee the right of all Americans to keep and bear arms as it states in the constitution will put an end to this stupidity.

The supreme court will decide what it wants and if it deems the DC ban on handguns is constitutional, the only thing that can be done to override it is an amendment to the constitution.