Daily Kos: The Coming Libertarian War Against America

[clb09]

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/9/15/782400/-Think-the-Teabaggers-Are-Crazy-Now-Just-Wait.

Immigration Reform.

If the libertarian hysterics about parasites living off the backs of "real" workers are at a fever pitch now, how much more so will they be during the fight over unions that the Employee Free Choice Act will provide?

If the crazed anti-science, anti-UN, anti-all-things-global wing of the pink elephant parade is this far gone over rescission, what happens when we really get going on a debate over dreaded Global Warming?

If the threat of corporate dollars and the astroturfing of big-money corporate organizations are this petrifyingly effective when it comes to Blue Cross/Blue Shield, how much more chilling will it be when the targets are Goldman Sachs and Bank of America?

And my mind can barely ponder the perfect storm of racist xenophobia that will erupt screaming from under the venting surface of the GOP base as we approach the subject of immigration reform.

 

[Mini-Me]

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/9/15/782400/-Think-the-Teabaggers-Are-Crazy-Now-Just-Wait.

...what amazingly intellectually dishonest tripe. If they only allowed the states to decide matters for themselves instead of forcing a one-size-fits-all plan on absolutely everyone, they would hardly even have any issues with us. It's their overwhelming need to control and rule over everyone and everything from the top that meets with such resistance.

 

[InterestedParticipant]

The drum beats of war are being turned up everywhere we look.... Racial division, creationists versus darwinists, liberals versus conservative... the list goes on and on and on.

But who are the people that beat these drums of war? Who are these mouthpieces and who are they speaking for? It is these mouthpieces and their funders who are our real enemy. It is not brother versus brother, it is brother versus elite and their paid stooges.

All the stooges are giving themselves away now. They are in mainstream media, they are in leftwing blogs, they are on patriot radio.... but those who drum the beats of hate and division are our enemy, do not listen to them.

 

[ClayTrainor]

The drum beats of war are being turned up everywhere we look.... Racial division, creationists versus darwinists, liberals versus conservative... the list goes on and on and on.

But who are the people that beat these drums of war? Who are these mouthpieces and who are they speaking for? It is these mouthpieces and their funders who are our real enemy. It is not brother versus brother, it is brother versus elite and their paid stooges.

All the stooges are giving themselves away now. They are in mainstream media, they are in leftwing blogs, they are on patriot radio.... but those who drum the beats of hate and division are our enemy, do not listen to them.

ding, ding. We have a winner!

 

[muh_roads]

What is the Employee Free Choice Act?

 

[BenIsForRon]

ding, ding. We have a winner!

No. We don't. Do you think "thereisnospoon" is some kind of propagandist for the global elite? This is just a dumb blogger. Please, don't egg IP on.

 

[clb09]

What is the Employee Free Choice Act?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employee_Free_Choice_Act

The Employee Free Choice Act (EFCA) (H.R. 1409, S. 560) is a bill presently being considered in the United States Congress. Its text states that it would "amend the National Labor Relations Act to establish an efficient system to enable employees to form, join, or assist labor organizations, to provide for mandatory injunctions for unfair labor practices during organizing efforts, and for other purposes."[1] The latest version was introduced into both chambers of the U.S. Congress on March 10, 2009.[2]

In order for a workplace to organize under current U.S. labor law, the card check process begins when an employee requests blank cards from an existing union, and requests signatures on the cards from his or her colleagues.[3] If at least 30% of the workers in a workplace bargaining unit sign the cards, the employer may request that the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) hold a secret ballot election to decide whether the workers want to be in a union.[3] In practice, the results of the card check usually are not presented to the employer until 50 or 60% of bargaining-unit employees have signed the cards.[3] If the employer decides to demand an election, and the majority of votes in the election favor the union, the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) will certify it as the exclusive representative of the employees of that particular bargaining unit for the purpose of collective bargaining.

 

[Epic]

Technically, the traditional libertarian stance is open borders - even though that view has evolved somewhat - so really that Dailykos blogger doesn't know anything.

Plus, no true libertarian is going to do any demonization of foreigners.

But really all the political divisions are just that - political. Without an expansive government, people wouldn't have to fight to get control of it.

 

[expendibleater]

The drum beats of war are being turned up everywhere we look.... Racial division, creationists versus darwinists, liberals versus conservative... the list goes on and on and on.

But who are the people that beat these drums of war? Who are these mouthpieces and who are they speaking for? It is these mouthpieces and their funders who are our real enemy. It is not brother versus brother, it is brother versus elite and their paid stooges.

All the stooges are giving themselves away now. They are in mainstream media, they are in leftwing blogs, they are on patriot radio.... but those who drum the beats of hate and division are our enemy, do not listen to them.

+1

 

[Annihilia]

What a load of shit. That is all I have to say.

 

[tmosley]

God, those people...

I just don't know what to say. They are caught up in a politics as religion fervor that has caused them to demonize others to the extent that they are debating about which step on the evolutionary ladder Republicans and "tea-baggers" are.

That, and they get the Right confused with Libertarians. It's disgusting.

 

[Matt Collins]

They ain't seen nothing yet!

 

[purplechoe]

It's not against America, it's for America, dumbass!!! And we are not at war, we are educating people.

 

[angelatc]

It's not against America, it's for America, dumbass!!!

This. Bring it on.

 

[LittleLightShining]

I haven't read it but this is what happens when Glenn Beck calls himself a Libertarian.

 

[BuddyRey]

These people are hypocrites. They spent eight years protesting Unconstitutional wars and the thuggish, nationalistic attitude of the Republicans, and now suddenly THEY are the Nationalists!? they're the ones saying we "hate America"? How disgusting!

 

[Flash]

They are angry that Libertarians stayed consistent on the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan when almost 100% of the Progressive movement did a massive fli-flop. Now Daily Kos barely even mentions the Patriot Act or Obama's plan to expand it.

 

[Gaius1981]

Libertarians are anti-science? Really? What drives technological progress—entrepreneurs in free markets, or bureaucrats in socialized economies?

 

[kahless]

Take a look at the bio of the mouth piece and founder of the Daily Kos.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markos_Moulitsas

What the hell happened and what is the story behind this guy? You would think after what his family went through he would go the opposite.

The left seems to worship this site as well as MSNBC. Maybe his background is why they selected him. Here is one case I agree with those here that say "controlled opposition" since this whole Daily Kos - Moulitsas - MSNBC thing does not make a whole lot of sense.

 

[LibForestPaul]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employee_Free_Choice_Act

Well, gov employees are already unionized. And everyone else will be out of work soon. So it is a moot issue.