Confused, abused and misused transgenders

[jmdrake]

I'm starting this thread separate from [MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION]'s "violent transgenders" because some of these people are actually victimized by the very people claiming to support them. For example the trans reality start Jazz Jennings who seems to have been physically abused (sexually as well?) by Jazz's "gender affirming" mother who encouraged Jazz to transition at 17 and then would wake Jazz up in the middle of the night to forcibly insert the dilatator for the fake vagina to keep it from closing up. Jazz ain't the villain here.

 

[jmdrake]

In the video Science, The Transgender Phenomenon and The Young, Abigail Shirer breaks out the trans community into 3 groups. 1) People with actual gender dysphoria, 2) teen girls with emotional issues suffering from the latest social contagion (similar to anorexia, bulimia and cutting) and 3) actual predators using trans as a front to invade women's spaces. I would add a fourth category, men with childhood trauma or other undiagnosed mental health issues who are trying to cope. (Walter Heyer for example). The right tends to focus a lot on group 3 and understandably so because they represent and actual danger to society. Ms. Shiner talks about laws which might allow male prisoners who identify as women to require housing in women's prisons as opposed to simply being segregated from male prisoners. What male rapist would not rather been in a female prison? In fact, what straight male period (no pun intended) would rather be in a female prison?

 

[Anti Federalist]

I'm starting this thread separate from [MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION]'s "violent transgenders" because some of these people are actually victimized by the very people claiming to support them.

[MENTION=849]jmdrake[/MENTION] I appreciate the hat tip, but that wasn't me that started that thread, it was [MENTION=40014]Origanalist[/MENTION]

 

[jmdrake]

[MENTION=849]jmdrake[/MENTION] I appreciate the hat tip, but that wasn't me that started that thread, it was [MENTION=40014]Origanalist[/MENTION]

Thank you for the correction.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Anti Federalist again.

Anyhow, my main point is a sizable number (majority?) of trans people are more victim of medical malpractice than villain.

 

[Origanalist]

Thank you for the correction.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Anti Federalist again.

Anyhow, my main point is a sizable number (majority?) of trans people are more victim of medical malpractice than villain.

Nobody with a functioning brain can dispute this. The problem is how to stop it? The entire Western world is infected with this mind virus now. It's promoted at the schools, it's promoted by the governments, it's promoted and practiced by sick "parents" looking to score woke points. We have descended into barbarism. 25 years ago people would have been going to prison, and rightly so.

 

[jmdrake]

Nobody with a functioning brain can dispute this. The problem is how to stop it? The entire Western world is infected with this mind virus now. It's promoted at the schools, it's promoted by the governments, it's promoted and practiced by sick "parents" looking to score woke points. We have descended into barbarism. 25 years ago people would have been going to prison, and rightly so.

You've kind of answered your own question. A "mind virus" is a sign of bad information. The only way to counter bad information is with good information. I think it is important to point out that there is a dangerous subgroup hiding in plain sight in the trans community and your thread points that out. But we also have to point out that "gender affirming care" isn't necessarily "care." There are a lot of facts on this subject that I just didn't know 6 months ago. Can I convince everyone I talk to that cutting off a teenager's sex organs, even with parental consent, is a bad idea even from a secular point of view? Nope. But if I can convince 1 or 2 people and they convince 1 or 2 and so on....

But yeah, this is going to be a long hard slog.

 

[TheTexan]

Everyone is a victim these days.

 

[tod evans]

Nobody with a functioning brain can dispute this. The problem is how to stop it? The entire Western world is infected with this mind virus now. It's promoted at the schools, it's promoted by the governments, it's promoted and practiced by sick "parents" looking to score woke points. We have descended into barbarism. 25 years ago people would have been going to prison, and rightly so.

We got to this point by talking about it.

Maybe it's time to stop talking.

 

[Origanalist]

This is the problem right here, sick disgusting parents out to score woke points at the cost of their children's sanity. If this wasn't happening we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

 

[Anti Federalist]

We got to this point by talking about it.

Maybe it's time to stop talking.

Long past time to stop just talking.

Start by shunning.

 

[acptulsa]

 

[jmdrake]

De-transitioner: Here's what her doctor didn't tell her.

 

[jmdrake]

We got to this point by talking about it.

Maybe it's time to stop talking.

No. We got to this point by only one side talking and the rest of us just minding our own business. Some of us didn't even have all of the facts to know what to say. There are still people out there that don't know, for example, that children are actually having body parts cut off. Most people think all that is happening is children are taking "reversible" puberty blockers or the body alterations are no different than a "butt lift." It's the same with the "climate change" agenda. I remember 20 years ago when I was visiting Canada seeing groups of young people "evangelizing" about climate change going around on the street talking to whoever would listen. I thought "That's cute! But it will never catch on." Boy was I wrong!

 

[jmdrake]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to acptulsa again.

 

[jmdrake]

Long past time to stop just talking.

Start by shunning.

Hasn't the shunning been going on all along? Doesn't seem to be working. Especially in the world of "digital connectivity."

 

[Anti Federalist]

Hasn't the shunning been going on all along? Doesn't seem to be working. Especially in the world of "digital connectivity."

Not really...most people are just like we were...minding our own business, "what adults do in the privacy of the bedroom" and so on.

Shunning has to be Amish in its intensity, to work properly.

If a family member or friend decides to go down this road of Marxist insanity, you have to dismiss them entirely out of your life.

 

[jmdrake]

Not really...most people are just like we were...minding our own business, "what adults do in the privacy of the bedroom" and so on.

Shunning has to be Amish in its intensity, to work properly. If a family member or friend decides to go down this road of Marxist insanity, you have dismiss them entirely out of your life.

That does zero to actually move the ball down the road when it comes to the broader society. All you've accomplished is to isolate yourself more. And the Amish have shunned technology altogether. The issue is the next generation is only hearing one side of this. You'll find yourself shunned by family members who aren't trans but have no idea why you're shunning the family members who are. What I'm talking about is the opposite of "minding our own business." It's actively pointing out that a lot of people who go down that road aren't as happy as they thought they'd be. Again, I've got much more knowledge on this than I did just 6 months ago. For instance I didn't even know Sweden had already banned this nonsense for minors.

 

[Anti Federalist]

That does zero to actually move the ball down the road when it comes to the broader society. All you've accomplished is to isolate yourself more. And the Amish have shunned technology altogether. The issue is the next generation is only hearing one side of this. You'll find yourself shunned by family members who aren't trans but have no idea why you're shunning the family members who are. What I'm talking about is the opposite of "minding our own business." It's actively pointing out that a lot of people who go down that road aren't as happy as they thought they'd be. Again, I've got much more knowledge on this than I did just 6 months ago. For instance I didn't even know Sweden had already banned this nonsense for minors.

I'm open to any and all suggestions.

You already know I am an advocate of separation, so the "isolation" thing doesn't concern me.

I cannot live with or share a country with people who think that genital mutilation of underage children without parental consent is "affirming" and "loving".

And this of course is just one issue of many.

It's actively pointing out that a lot of people who go down that road aren't as happy as they thought they'd be

There you go with facts again.

My brother, you need to "centralize" a critical point, before delving another hour into this fight.

Facts Do Not Matter.

These people don't give a fuck if their policies and procedures generate more human happiness and contentment.

In fact, they are more pleased if just the opposite occurs.

They want us dead, they want us balled up in a fetal position with mumbling insanity, they want us to suicide by dope or gun or high places.

The Untouchables again...remember the scene of Capone's reaction when informed that Ness and the boys had seized the Canadian whiskey shipment?

"I want him DEAD, I want this Ness DEAD, I want his whole family DEAD, burn his house to the ground and piss on it!!!"

It serves their purpose to create human misery rather than happiness, while at the same time attacking our very core of reason, by demanding we reject objective reality.

 

[jmdrake]

I'm open to any and all suggestions.

You already know I am an advocate of separation, so the "isolation" thing doesn't concern me.

I cannot live with or share a country with people who think that genital mutilation of underage children without parental consent is "affirming" and "loving".

And this of course is just one issue of many.

Well on the states rights front I'm proud of the fact that my previous state and my current state banned that crap. I instinctively knew even puberty blockers were a bad idea. But know I know that minors in this country have had their boobs and privates cut off all in the name of "affirmation." There are still people on the fence on this issue. If I hadn't been woken up by 9/11 I might not have been able to see through the relentless stream of propaganda that we the people are fed on a daily basis. I'm sure there are a lot more people like me in the world. Not evil, just ignorant. And yes there are people who simply can't be reached. As for separation? If America totally goes to pot in my lifetime I'm looking at places on the African continent.

 

[jmdrake]

I'm open to any and all suggestions.

You already know I am an advocate of separation, so the "isolation" thing doesn't concern me.

I cannot live with or share a country with people who think that genital mutilation of underage children without parental consent is "affirming" and "loving".

And this of course is just one issue of many.



There you go with facts again.

My brother, you need to "centralize" a critical point, before delving another hour into this fight.

Facts Do Not Matter.

These people don't give a $#@! if their policies and procedures generate more human happiness and contentment.

In fact, they are more pleased if just the opposite occurs.

They want us dead, they want us balled up in a fetal position with mumbling insanity, they want us to suicide by dope or gun or high places.

The Untouchables again...remember the scene of Capone's reaction when informed that Ness and the boys had seized the Canadian whiskey shipment?

"I want him DEAD, I want this Ness DEAD, I want his whole family DEAD, burn his house to the ground and piss on it!!!"

It serves their purpose to create human misery rather than happiness, while at the same time attacking our very core of reason, by demanding we reject objective reality.

I'm merely differentiating between people like Jazz Jennings and Jazz Jennings mother. Jazz Jennings is trans but not evil. Jazz Jennings mother is evil but not trans. And yes there are people that are trans and evil. Jazz were pressured into transitioning and now regrets it.