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Chuck Baldwin: My letter of resignation to Stewart Rhodes

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Chuck Baldwin
April 2020



My letter of resignation to Stewart Rhodes, Founder and President of Oath Keepers.

On April 3, I tendered my resignation as National Chaplain of Oath Keepers, a position I had held since 2013. It was written not out of pleasure but out of conviction. Here is the letter:


Dear Stewart,

Having read your open letter to State governors regarding the coronavirus, I have no choice but to resign my position as National Chaplain of Oath Keepers.

The stated purpose of Oath Keepers is to hold accountable those who took an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution—and that includes YOU.

Virtually every recommendation you made in your letter is an egregious violation of our Constitution and Bill of Rights. No war, no “emergency,” no sickness, no disease, no man-made or natural attack against us has any bearing against the constitutional protections of our liberties.

By resorting to gross fearmongering and hyperbole, you have joined the mainstream media and Big Government medical hacks in attacking virtually every constitutionally protected liberty upon which our country was founded. The “science” surrounding COVID-19 is mostly guesswork, estimation, projection, speculation, etc., with almost zero accuracy. And even if it wasn’t, it wouldn’t change the Constitution and Bill of Rights one iota.

I cannot see into your heart to know your motives. Do the feds have something on you and you are playing ball to stay out of trouble? Have you always been controlled opposition? Or do you really support the totalitarian nature of the “solutions” you are proposing? Only you know the answers to those questions.

The one thing I do know is that I can no longer in good conscience be formally associated with Oath Keepers.
This resignation is effective immediately.


https://chuckbaldwinlive.com/



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Oath Keepers Emergency Open Letter to the State Governors on Fighting the Coronavirus


March 11, 2020

To the State Governors of the United States:

We speak to you as military, police, fire-fighters, EMS, and other first responders who are committed to preserving our Constitution and to preserving the lives of the American people. We urge you to be proactive, rather than reactive (as respected UK epidemiologist Dr. John Campbell has been urging for weeks). We urge you to look at Italy to see what is coming. Recognize that this is a highly contagious, airborne virus that is a threat to the life of every American, that WILL overwhelm existing emergency medical services and hospitals, just as it did in Italy.

And then treat this like a mass casualty event and take the following decisive and effective steps to lessen, limit, contain, and mitigate the spread of the Coronavirus in your state, within the bounds of the Constitution, and to provide effective care to those who are infected to lessen the loss of life:

A. Declare a pandemic health emergency in your state.

B. Shut down all public schools in your state to limit the spreading of the virus, and call on private schools to voluntarily cancel in-person classes. Call on schools to arrange online education for students. Presume you already have community spread throughout your state and be PROACTIVE, not reactive (i.e. shut down schools before you have sick students rather than after. Shutting down schools after you see confirmed cases of infected students in a school is too late because of the asymptomatic incubation period, and because some are asymptomatic carriers who never show symptoms but still infect others – they just spread the disease).

C. Call on the people of your state to suspend or cancel all large public gatherings, including church services (which should be conducted over the internet).

D. Call up your State National Guard and your state defense force/state guard (for example, in Texas it would be the Texas State Guard as well as the Texas National Guard) to assist during this health emergency.

E. Formally request that President Trump declare a national emergency and request that the President deploy Army Reserve and Navy Reserve hospital units to your state to set up field hospitals to provide additional ICU facilities for confirmed Coronavirus cases. As we see in Italy, local hospitals will be quickly overrun – essentially a “Broken Arrow” scenario. Expect it, and prepare for it. Have field hospitals ready to handle the overflow. And those must be able to handle ARDS (Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome) which is essentially lungs filled with fluid, even worse than pneumonia.

F. Act now to outfit the civilian hospitals in your state with the resources they need to increase the number of ICU beds, respirators, negative air pressure rooms, additional oxygen, and other essential equipment and supplies they need to treat large numbers of ARDS cases from a highly contagious virus. Again, look to Italy to understand what is coming and prepare now, in advance by being proactive, rather than reactive.

G. Use all available state resources to provide extra protective gear, masks, filters, etc to hospital staff to protect them while they treat a large influx of Coronavirus patients. The field hospitals will need the same. In addition, provide effective personal protective equipment for ALL first responders in your state, i.e. law enforcement, Fire, EMS, search and rescue, etc., as well as protective equipment for your National Guard and state defense force or other volunteer first responders. Prepare now to resupply them over a long period of time.

H. Set up a Coronavirus hotline to each county health department that people of each county can call. Instruct people to NOT go to emergency rooms or doctor’s office if they want to be tested (which only spreads the disease). Instead, instruct them to stay home and call the hotline. This virus is AIRBORNE and highly infectious, especially in enclosed spaces. Anyone walking into an emergency room, clinic or doctor’s office can either spread it to others, or contract it from others in that enclosed space. They must not do so unless they are in immediate danger of death from some other cause (i.e. heart attack, life threatening injury, etc.). See below for recommendations on outdoor screening areas for those who do come to hospitals.

I. Equip the county health department, National Guard, state defense force/guard and other emergency personnel with testing kits and protective gear so they can work together and send out teams to test people who call into the hotline. The Army Reserve and Navy Reserve medical units can assist with this work.

J. Set up drive through testing stations like South Korea is doing. That would work well in high population urban areas (testing teams could be overwhelmed if they have to go to homes to test people who call the hotline in a large urban area). You should still have mobile testing teams who can go to the homes of people who do not own a vehicle or otherwise cannot travel for some reason.

Doing the above will reduce the load on existing local medical infrastructure and lessen the risk of spreading the virus.

K. Prepare to deal with the reality that some people will STILL try to walk into the local hospital emergency room. Assist local hospitals in setting up an outdoors, open air testing and screening area in the parking lot of the hospital that people will have to go through first, before being brought into the hospital, so they reduce the risk of infection by people entering the emergency room. DO NOT have possible Coronavirus infected people in a confined space, like an emergency room or indoor clinic, mixed with others. Screen and test them outdoors.

Overhead protection from rain is fine, but keep it open air, as it is now confirmed that the Coronavirus is airborne, and therefore enclosed spaces will only speed contagion.

Keep people at least nine feet apart while they wait outdoors to be tested. Provide them all with masks to minimize spread by those who are possibly infected. All testing personnel must be in protective suits with full face masks and effective filters.

L. Make sure your local hospitals can process the tests without having to send them to the CDC.

M. Governors of border states must use all available resources to prevent illegal crossing into their state from Mexico, by any and all lawful means at their disposal. Otherwise infected people WILL cross over in waves because they will want our superior medical care. Expect it.

Again, be proactive. Use your leadership to show the people of your state how serious this really is. And your actions will prompt President Trump to also take decisive action within the bounds of the Constitution to do all he can as well. We urge you to work with him in doing what must be done, but we also urge you to NOT rely solely on the CDC for advice, as the CDC has not been providing complete information (for example, CDC has not been telling you that this virus is airborne), and has not been effectively advising you or the President on what must actually be done to lessen the spread (such as closing all schools, all large gatherings, and shutting down all mass transportation of people – airlines, buses, trains, subways, etc). Again, look to Italy, South Korea, and other nations that have learned hard lessons, and follow their examples by taking decisive action now.

God save our Republic.

Oath Keepers



https://oathkeepers.org/2020/03/oat...-state-governors-on-fighting-the-coronavirus/
 
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So glad you posted this because I was just wondering about Oath Keepers yesterday. Sounds like Rhodes is working for Bill Gates.

I never trusted this organization and a few of them showing up at the Bundy ranch didn't change that. His name is Rhodes, after all and he he did go to Yale, right? Nuff said.

Besides, who in their right mind would ever believe cops, retired or otherwise, are going to ever be on the side of freedom?


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Just to point out the obvious, the Oathkeepers letter was written on March 11th, when there were no emergencies declared, and Bill De Blasio was telling everyone to ride the subways and to continue as normal.

It looks like Baldwin waited over two weeks to write his resignation. Why the wait? Hindsight is 20/20. Understanding has changed quite a bit since then. Seems like grandstanding after the fact.

Did Baldwin stand with De Blasio when he was saying this?

 
Just to point out the obvious, the Oathkeepers letter was written on March 11th, when there were no emergencies declared, and Bill De Blasio was telling everyone to ride the subways and to continue as normal.

It looks like Baldwin waited over two weeks to write his resignation. Why the wait? Hindsight is 20/20. Understanding has changed quite a bit since then. Seems like grandstanding after the fact.

Did Baldwin stand with De Blasio when he was saying this?

Bad Chuck Baldwin, that evil grandstander, bad.

FAIL

Good Poor attempt, though.
 
Just to point out the obvious, the Oathkeepers letter was written on March 11th, when there were no emergencies declared, and Bill De Blasio was telling everyone to ride the subways and to continue as normal.

It looks like Baldwin waited over two weeks to write his resignation. Why the wait? Hindsight is 20/20. Understanding has changed quite a bit since then. Seems like grandstanding after the fact.

Did Baldwin stand with De Blasio when he was saying this?


I've witnessed people who I thought were otherwise sane experience temporary insanity over the fear provoked by this psyop. Perhaps Baldwin lost his senses for a brief period, believing the virus to be real and forgetting that under NO CIRCUMSTANCES is it ever okay to suspend freedom and then regained his wits and realized. Dunno. Look at that shithead Amash and his disgusting letter to me justifying some of the nonsense from our governor and the public health commies. Asshole even gave me a link to the CDC.
 
I've witnessed people who I thought were otherwise sane experience temporary insanity over the fear provoked by this psyop. Perhaps Baldwin lost his senses for a brief period, believing the virus to be real and forgetting that under NO CIRCUMSTANCES is it ever okay to suspend freedom and then regained his wits and realized. Dunno. Look at that $#@!head Amash and his disgusting letter to me justifying some of the nonsense from our governor and the public health commies. $#@! even gave me a link to the CDC.

Perhaps.

Also, perhaps Chuck did not see the the emergency letter right away, or wanted Rhodes time to reconsider, or tried talking to Rhodes offline but to no avail. Rhodes letter still stands, and Chuck was honorable enough to take his current position.

Perhaps Chuck gave temporary the benefit of the doubt, like many still see trump, but then finally figured Rhodes was not going to change.

Perhaps Chucks response is admirable, since he stated “ The one thing I do know is that I can no longer in good conscience be formally associated with Oath Keepers.”.

I say cheers to Chuck. Admittedly, I have been checking Oath Keepers site often since this red flag occurred, hoping that Oath Keepers would stand by principle. I gave Rhodes time to stand also, but he failed.
 
Perhaps.

Also, perhaps Chuck did not see the the emergency letter right away, or wanted Rhodes time to reconsider, or tried talking to Rhodes offline but to no avail. Rhodes letter still stands, and Chuck was honorable enough to take his current position.

Perhaps Chuck gave temporary the benefit of the doubt, like many still see trump, but then finally figured Rhodes was not going to change.

Perhaps Chucks response is admirable, since he stated “ The one thing I do know is that I can no longer in good conscience be formally associated with Oath Keepers.”.

I say cheers to Chuck. Admittedly, I have been checking Oath Keepers site often since this red flag occurred, hoping that Oath Keepers would stand by principle. I gave Rhodes time to stand also, but he failed.

Baldwin's letter was great and Rhodes' was appalling and tyrannical crap. I seriously wonder whose payroll he's on. All of the reasons you gave, as well as my own speculation could be why the two weeks passed but it was still timely enough.

I know some people who are totally buying into this shit. Fear is a tremendous weapon. I can give anyone some slack if they were afraid and briefly lost their minds. If they haven't regained them by now, though, we can assume freedom doesn't mean that much to them. I can see that it DOES to Chuck Baldwin so good on him.
 
Baldwin's letter was great and Rhodes' was appalling and tyrannical crap. I seriously wonder whose payroll he's on. All of the reasons you gave, as well as my own speculation could be why the two weeks passed but it was still timely enough.

I know some people who are totally buying into this $#@!. Fear is a tremendous weapon. I can give anyone some slack if they were afraid and briefly lost their minds. If they haven't regained them by now, though, we can assume freedom doesn't mean that much to them. I can see that it DOES to Chuck Baldwin so good on him.

The statists jump at every opportunity to cut the throats of proven liberty promoters. Yes, fear is a tremendous weapon. I do not fall prey to fear. I also do not buy statist rhetoric, no matter how nicely they attempt to package it.
 
The statists jump at every opportunity to cut the throats of proven liberty promoters. Yes, fear is a tremendous weapon. I do not fall prey to fear. I also do not buy statist rhetoric, no matter how nicely they attempt to package it.

Which statists are you referring to? You started a thread to attack Oathkeepers. Are they no longer "liberty promoters" in any way? Are they to be shunned now?
 
Which statists are you referring to? You started a thread to attack Oathkeepers. Are they no longer "liberty promoters" in any way? Are they to be shunned now?

Before Chuck even posted that resignation, I washed my hands of OK. F&ck ‘em.
 
Before Chuck even posted that resignation, I washed my hands of OK. F&ck ‘em.

I don't follow Oathkeepers, so I only generally know about them. They still seem to be liberty oriented judging by their Twitter account:

Here's their pinned Tweet on Twitter:


https://twitter.com/Oathkeepers/status/1253647681018306560

And other Tweets:


https://twitter.com/Oathkeepers/status/1256519201398947840

They retweet more that create original Tweets, but most recent ones are about re-opening:


https://twitter.com/TheRightMelissa/status/1255243571592073220


https://twitter.com/AnonsSynonymous/status/1255637399138217986
 
I don't follow Oathkeepers, so I only generally know about them. They still seem to be liberty oriented judging by their Twitter account:

Here's their pinned Tweet on Twitter:


https://twitter.com/Oathkeepers/status/1253647681018306560

And other Tweets:


https://twitter.com/Oathkeepers/status/1256519201398947840

They retweet more that create original Tweets, but most recent ones are about re-opening:


https://twitter.com/TheRightMelissa/status/1255243571592073220


https://twitter.com/AnonsSynonymous/status/1255637399138217986


They maintain a following. Much like dear leaders. Otherwise they disappear into non-existence. Can’t let that happen.
 
The first seven hits of an internet search of Stewart Rhodes and Chuck Baldwin brings up two items that are not part of their respective social media accounts. The first is this thread. The second is an article by the SPLC highlighting this "division".

There are no other hits about this story.
 
Just to point out the obvious, the Oathkeepers letter was written on March 11th, when there were no emergencies declared, and Bill De Blasio was telling everyone to ride the subways and to continue as normal.

It looks like Baldwin waited over two weeks to write his resignation. Why the wait? Hindsight is 20/20. Understanding has changed quite a bit since then. Seems like grandstanding after the fact.

Did Baldwin stand with De Blasio when he was saying this?

That was my first reaction as well. I don't agree with Rhodes' statement, but I can understand...things were looking pretty grim there back in March.

FWIW, I know Rhodes, he helped a family member out of jam pro bono, successfully and quickly, and he has my thanks for that.

I think this is all yet another example of how quickly us "liberty folks" are inclined to turn on each other and tear each other to shreds in a heartbeat. Between that and the grifters and deadbeats, it has made me wash my hands of the whole "movement".

If we had any volume of people like we used to have here, you can rest assured the atheists would be tearing apart Baldwin for being a Christian minister.

I have a great deal of respect for both men here, and it's a damn shame that they could not have quietly come to an understanding...because trust me, the only people that are happy about this, are the Jacobin cocksuckers at the Soviet Poverty Lies Center.

I am generally sick and tired of hearing about how this one or that one is a "heretic" and must be purged because they strayed from the orthodoxy.

Amash sucks cuz he said this.
Trump sucks cuz he said that.
Rand sucks cuz he did this.
NRA sucks cuz they did that.

And on and on and on...tirelessly, ceaselessly...and it has gotten old.

Nobody's perfect all the time, we do not have the numbers to purge a whole group of liberty people every single time an orthodoxy is broken.
 
That was my first reaction as well. I don't agree with Rhodes' statement, but I can understand...things were looking pretty grim there back in March.

FWIW, I know Rhodes, he helped a family member out of jam pro bono, successfully and quickly, and he has my thanks for that.

I think this is all yet another example of how quickly us "liberty folks" are inclined to turn on each other and tear each other to shreds in a heartbeat. Between that and the grifters and deadbeats, it has made me wash my hands of the whole "movement".

If we had any volume of people like we used to have here, you can rest assured the atheists would be tearing apart Baldwin for being a Christian minister.

I have a great deal of respect for both men here, and it's a damn shame that they could not have quietly come to an understanding...because trust me, the only people that are happy about this, are the Jacobin $#@!s at the Soviet Poverty Lies Center.

I am generally sick and tired of hearing about how this one or that one is a "heretic" and must be purged because they strayed from the orthodoxy.

Amash sucks cuz he said this.
Trump sucks cuz he said that.
Rand sucks cuz he did this.
NRA sucks cuz they did that.

And on and on and on...tirelessly, ceaselessly...and it has gotten old.

Nobody's perfect all the time, we do not have the numbers to purge a whole group of liberty people every single time an orthodoxy is broken.

I agree with some of what you said. But Rhodes took it way too far. It wasn’t a quick list of 2, 3, maybe 4 bullet points, he took the time to craft out A through M. I don’t want or need his kind of help. And for the record, I’ve spent more than a few occasions with him too and had some conversations with him.

There are differences where folks can still work together. There are also compromises which can/will lead to a destruction of liberty.
 
I agree with some of what you said. But Rhodes took it way too far. It wasn’t a quick list of 2, 3, maybe 4 bullet points, he took the time to craft out A through M.

Fair enough, I didn't agree either...but does he still think that should be the plan?

A lot has changed in six weeks...what was being taken as gospel truth now is being exposed as a lie.

I don’t want or need his kind of help.

A meeting of one.

Take every single person that may have the slightest understanding of liberty all across the country...and it's a tiny minority when held up against the outright Marxist and immigrant hordes.

We have not got the numbers to purge anybody...just like this site has no room to ban anybody, outside of an obvious bot, or fed.
 
Fair enough, I didn't agree either...but does he still think that should be the plan?

A lot has changed in six weeks...what was being taken as gospel truth now is being exposed as a lie.



A meeting of one.

Take every single person that may have the slightest understanding of liberty all across the country...and it's a tiny minority when held up against the outright Marxist and immigrant hordes.

We have not got the numbers to purge anybody...just like this site has no room to ban anybody, outside of an obvious bot, or fed.

Yeah, I agree to a point again. But, for instance, I was out protesting today, few seemed to care, most did not want to get involved and agreed with the state. And then,,,

One lady asked if her welfare was going to be affected after I said something about food shortages. She then said that I need to vote democrat this election for the sake of our country. So we’re both fighting for the re-opening, but she wants an increase in size of .gov, not less.
 
Yeah, I agree to a point again. But, for instance, I was out protesting today, few seemed to care, most did not want to get involved and agreed with the state. And then,,,

One lady asked if her welfare was going to be affected after I said something about food shortages. She then said that I need to vote democrat this election for the sake of our country. So we’re both fighting for the re-opening, but she wants an increase in size of .gov, not less.

See?

<facepalm>
 
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