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Can we please stop the deniers now? Known climate skeptic admits science is "right"

reillym

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexkna...nt-study-confirms-that-global-warming-exists/

BEST has now released their data, and determined that their findings are well within the range of previous research. BEST’s findings indicate that in the past 50 years, the average land surface temperature of the Earth has increased about 0.911 degrees Celsius. Moreover, BEST concluded that past research by NOAA, NASA, and other groups were accurate in their estimates of warming.

This finding, conducted by a noted climate research skeptic and funded by a variety of non-partisan sources, should hopefully end the debate over whether the Earth is warming. All the data points to the same conclusion. It is. I’ve no doubt that this will lead to another set of debates over the extent to which the cause is the result of CO2 and methane emissions, but I’m hopeful they will be much shorter. That CO2 and methane, when introduced to a mixture of gasses, allow for more heat to be trapped is indisputable – you can conduct an experiment on it yourself in your garage for a couple hundred bucks. While climate is certainly an extraordinarily complicated mechanism, the facts keep pointing back to this simple fact of chemistry. Increased CO2 and methane may not be the sole cause of climate change, but it’s definitely a cause and almost certainly a major one.

What else will it take to make the deniers admit they are on the wrong side of SCIENCE? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
And the other planets in the solar system that are also warming?

Who promised you a stable climate anyway? Al Gore? In the framework of geological time, which IS the relevant one when talking about the Earth, the climate has NEVER been stable. The idea that it ever has been is an illusion brought about by the short human lifespan and hysterical idiots like Al Gore.

Life is change. Get used to it.
 
Wait a minute... WHICH temperature is ideal? And who gets to decide? And how much money is it going to cost to try to achieve that temperature? And once it's achieved, how much does it cost to keep it there?

These are all relevant questions if we plan on preventing climate change.
 
Of course the planet is warming, we are coming out of a minor ice age that centered around the time of the founding of our country.

The planet was much warmer during the medieval warming period, it had nothing to do with man or CO2 then, and today man's affect and CO2 in general appear to be negligible in regards to affecting temperature changes and climate shifts as well.

It is such a shame that environmentalists waste their time on something harmless like CO2 when there are so many other harmful and toxic pollutants that our government allows to be released. reillym, by focusing on MMGW theories you are really just distracting everybody from real environmental issues that will never be addressed thanks to your distractions. Is your real intention to destroy the planet with toxic pollution?
 
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I don't deny climate change. I just think it is a natural cycle of the solar system. Primarily caused by solar activity and gyrations in Earth's orbit. The earth is sometimes very cold such as during the time of massive glaciation during the Paleolithic period. At other times it has been exceedingly warm such as during the time of the Dinosaurs.

Right now, we are leaving a minor cooling period, and heading toward a somewhat warmer period, but our temps right now are moderate compared to those extremes I mentioned in the last paragraph. Personally, I'd rather see warmer than cooler. Warmer usually leads to increasing precipitation, more rainforests, and increasing arable land. Cooling leads to water sequestion in glaciers, global drying, more deserts, and less arable land.
 
Does this mean my ice fishing season will be shorter this year?
 
Yes. And the warming temperature is contributing to more and more rapes. It must be stopped.
 
Of course the planet is warming, we are coming out of a minor ice age that centered around the time of the founding of our country.

The planet was much warmer during the medieval warming period, it had nothing to do with man or CO2 then, and today man's affect and CO2 in general appear to be negligible in regards to affecting temperature changes and climate shifts as well.

It is such a shame that environmentalists waste their time on something harmless like CO2 when there are so many other harmful and toxic pollutants that our government allows to be released. reillym, by focusing on MMGW theories you are really just distracting everybody from real environmental issues that will never be addressed thanks to your distractions. Is your real intention to destroy the planet with toxic pollution?

Did you read the article? Our increase in CO2 is EXACTLY WHAT THE STUDY PROVED.

Read, please.
 
And the other planets in the solar system that are also warming?

Who promised you a stable climate anyway? Al Gore? In the framework of geological time, which IS the relevant one when talking about the Earth, the climate has NEVER been stable. The idea that it ever has been is an illusion brought about by the short human lifespan and hysterical idiots like Al Gore.

Life is change. Get used to it.

Nice twisting of the argument. You realize that you have been wrong about the science, so you try to divert the argument.
 
So now that "the science is in", the only logic reaction is a huge global tax on developed countries, at least those countries which can be forced to participate, to be managed by Goldman Sachs, and then distribute the trillions of dollars all around the world as the globalists see fit.

That will solve this whole global warming problem!
 
So now that "the science is in", the only logic reaction is a huge global tax on developed countries, at least those countries which can be forced to participate, to be managed by Goldman Sachs, and then distribute the trillions of dollars all around the world as the globalists see fit.

That will solve this whole global warming problem!

This article is not in support of that. Bad solutions are no reason to ignore science. Or reality. Corrupt people everywhere take advantage of everything, just because climate change is no different doesn't make the science false.
 
What's your solution OP?

I, unlike many on this board, have the humility to acknowledge that I do not know some things. This is one of them. Although, any smart solution would balance regulation(smart) and free-market principles, I would hope.
 
This article is not in support of that. Bad solutions are no reason to ignore science. Or reality. Corrupt people everywhere take advantage of everything, just because climate change is no different doesn't make the science false.

why should we even care about this issue, when we know that the government shouldn't do anything either way.? this should be left to scientists.
 
why should we even care about this issue, when we know that the government shouldn't do anything either way.? this should be left to scientists.

I think the government could have a role here; in disaster planning or preventive measures to handle increased temperatures. Not to try to stop or reverse it; but how to live with it.
 
Did you read the article? Our increase in CO2 is EXACTLY WHAT THE STUDY PROVED.

Read, please.

LOL, no it didn't.. increase in temperatures causes increases in CO2, anyway, haven't you seen THOSE studies?! Your correlation is backwards.
 
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