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Can anyone confirm this? Rudy presidency illegal?

DjLoTi

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"The writers of the U.S. Constitution were very smart individuals. They have secured our freedom from the tyranny of foreign rulers so that we can live in individual liberty.

One aspect our Countries Founders touched on, regarding foreign rulers, was to protect us from those who may infiltrate our government from foreign saboteurs. Someone who held allegiance not to America, but to a foreign power that would subvert our form of government and lead us into tyranny.

The writers included in the Constitution a clause that would ensure that anyone holding a public trust, or title, for a foreign country could not gain public office and subvert our Government.

The Constitution states:

“No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States: and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or TITLE, of ANY KIND WHATEVER, from any king, prince, or foreign state.” – Article 1, Section 9

Rudy Giuliani is running for the highest office in the land and he has been knighted by the Queen of England. This knighthood, called “Knight Commander of the British Empire”, was bestowed on Rudy Giuliani on February 13, 2002.

One source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1818874.stm

The Constitution is very clear that “no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall….. accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.”

Some may write this off as frivolous, but remember. We are talking about an issue that is plainly written within the Constitution that must be upheld as diligently as if it were the 1st Amendment or any other Amendment we hold so dear. To ignore this is surely the same as to ignore any other part of the Constitution.

Rudy Giuliani MUST either repudiate his title from England or remove himself from running for President of the United States. To go any further in the election process would be to subvert the very Constitution he would swear by oath to protect."
 
I believe Bush 41 is also some kind of a night or some such...
 
Giuliani was not an employee of the federal government. He didn't need permission to be knighted. Also, he isn't really a knight, you need to be a British Citizen.
 
Also he wasn't even mayor when he was knighted so it is moot.

"no person holding any office..."

meaning no person currently in office can accept a title, gift, or whatever. If you're out of office, or got it before office - fine.
 
Well Ive always felt that section is NEVER enforced.. if it were any politician receiving money from any foreign lobbyists would be terminated or tried.

But its ignored just like gold and silver, just like the declaration of war. Why would Bush push for the NAU ? because someones paying him.. probably those bank of england fucking rothschilds..
 
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I think it is "Knight of Darkness"

Maybe Priscilla, Queen of the Desert

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It's a non-issue. If anybody besides Ron Paul gets the GOP primary, it will be a democrat as President. Giuliani needs to stay in it to help split the pro-war vote anyway.
 
"The writers of the U.S. Constitution were very smart individuals. They have secured our freedom from the tyranny of foreign rulers so that we can live in individual liberty.

One aspect our Countries Founders touched on, regarding foreign rulers, was to protect us from those who may infiltrate our government from foreign saboteurs. Someone who held allegiance not to America, but to a foreign power that would subvert our form of government and lead us into tyranny.

The writers included in the Constitution a clause that would ensure that anyone holding a public trust, or title, for a foreign country could not gain public office and subvert our Government.

The Constitution states:

“No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States: and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or TITLE, of ANY KIND WHATEVER, from any king, prince, or foreign state.” – Article 1, Section 9

Rudy Giuliani is running for the highest office in the land and he has been knighted by the Queen of England. This knighthood, called “Knight Commander of the British Empire”, was bestowed on Rudy Giuliani on February 13, 2002.

One source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1818874.stm

The Constitution is very clear that “no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall….. accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.”

Some may write this off as frivolous, but remember. We are talking about an issue that is plainly written within the Constitution that must be upheld as diligently as if it were the 1st Amendment or any other Amendment we hold so dear. To ignore this is surely the same as to ignore any other part of the Constitution.

Rudy Giuliani MUST either repudiate his title from England or remove himself from running for President of the United States. To go any further in the election process would be to subvert the very Constitution he would swear by oath to protect."

Section 9: Limits on Congress
The next section of Article One provided limits on Congress's powers:

DJ, I appreciate your passion, but you are frequently taking things out of context...I've pointed this out before. I would urge you to be more careful or you may find your quotes/radio program being used out of context against Ron Paul.
 
Because it limits congresspeople from accepting a title or gift. It doesn't limit a mayor.

It's bid broader in scope than that: it limits any federal officeholder from accepting, not just members of Congress. ;)

You are correct in that Julie Annie was a private citizen when he accepted the title.

Article one is about the powers of congress - it has NOTHING to do with President which is article two

Correct, but only in part. The sitting Pres can't take the honor, as I said above. The other main point about that clause is that is disallows the federal government from creating a monarchy or aristocracy.
 
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I didn't do the investigation or write the article, I just saw it and was curious about its legitimacy.
 
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