Babylon Bee lampoons January 6th lolz (VIDEO)

[Matt Collins]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6HnqV6jzTU

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[jmdrake]

The actual scariest moment of January 6.



It's funny how the left tries to pretend all of the BLM protestors were peaceful and not of the January 6th protestors were and the right tries to pretend all of the January 6th protestors were peaceful and none of the BLM protestors were. Here's an idea. If you're smashing windows and trying to go places that are barracaded, whether they are department stores or the part of the capitol where congress had just been evacuated, maybe you aren't peaceful. Just a thought.

 

[TheTexan]

The actual scariest moment of January 6.



It's funny how the left tries to pretend all of the BLM protestors were peaceful and not of the January 6th protestors were and the right tries to pretend all of the January 6th protestors were peaceful and none of the BLM protestors were. Here's an idea. If you're smashing windows and trying to go places that are barracaded, whether they are department stores or the part of the capitol where congress had just been evacuated, maybe you aren't peaceful. Just a thought.

I still think it's funny how the people in the hall on the other side are basically just chilling. Really scary bro.

I would remind you that at that point in the riot, there was noone left to protect. Anyone who wanted out of the building was already out. The only thing that was being protected at this point was property.

 

[jmdrake]

I still think it's funny how the people in the hall on the other side are basically just chilling. Really scary bro

They knew what would happen if some actually tried to come through the barracade. Apparently Ashley Babbit couldn't figure that out.

Edit: Look at this CNN reporter chuckle about being shot with a bb pellet when BLM protestors were assaulting CNN center and he was behind a wall of police.



Again, both sides discount their own violence.

 

[TheTexan]

They knew what would happen if some actually tried to come through the barracade. Apparently Ashley Babbit couldn't figure that out.

Edit: Look at this CNN reporter chuckle about being shot with a bb pellet when BLM protestors were assaulting CNN center and he was behind a wall of police.



Again, both sides discount their own violence.

That building is a fortress swarming with armed guards and that hallway is a fucking killbox that could be easily defended with force if needed against an angry mob. The barricade was more for the mob's protection than the people's protection on the other side.

Do you still honestly believe that 1 - ONE - person getting past a 95% functional barricade, presented an *immediate* deadly threat to a guard who had the option to retreat?

 

[TheTexan]

A ton of rioters got past the barricades in the subway stations (closer to the politicians, more of a threat), and the way they handled it was:

1) Aim a gun at the rioters who broke past the barricade
2) Say get on the ground
3) Rioters got on the ground

And guess what, none of them got shot.

 

[Valli6]

but how much of the violence was staged?

It's funny how the left tries to pretend all of the BLM protestors were peaceful and not of the January 6th protestors were and the right tries to pretend all of the January 6th protestors were peaceful and none of the BLM protestors were. Here's an idea. If you're smashing windows and trying to go places that are barracaded, whether they are department stores or the part of the capitol where congress had just been evacuated, maybe you aren't peaceful. Just a thought.

Yes, but how many of the people doing the smashing in the capitol were government hired help? Did you ever see the video of phony Fanone ("cop") being “beaten up” by a mob? Very fake looking. or the popular staged-looking photo of the tiny armless cop dummy, face-down on the steps, being “beaten up” by a mob perfectly posed all around it? We know there were government agents in that crowd - Thomas Massie asked about it in a hearing and was refused an answer. Anything similar happen at BLM riots? Did cops start gassing and shooting rubber bullets at BLM people early on, while they were still just standing there peacefully? Did incompetent cop leaders gas their own men at BLM riots? (It's on video!)

They knew what would happen if some actually tried to come through the barracade. Apparently Ashley Babbit couldn't figure that out.

Did you know that Ashli Babbit had been trained in riot control? The guy that broke the glass in the door - there’s video of her punching him in the face to make him stop. Later, she kneeled in that window without any weapons. Was she trying to communicate with someone? to help?

Ashli Babbitt’s former Guard unit (113) was deployed in the Capitol that day

“Additional logistical support of unarmed members of the DC National Guard.”

“It is unclear exactly how and when Babbitt entered the Capitol. She undoubtedly understood law enforcement could use deadly force in response to the breach. Airmen in the role Babbitt once occupied in the D.C. Air National Guard’s 113th Air Wing receive riot-control training, and her former unit was mobilized to protect the Capitol on Wednesday.”

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy...bowsers_letter_from_january_5_2021/?rdt=57524

(Sorry, the reddit link will send you to a Washington Post article which you are now locked out of unless you have an account with them.)

 

[jmdrake]

Yes, but how many of the people doing the smashing in the capitol were government hired help? Did you ever see the video of phony Fanone ("cop") being “beaten up” by a mob? Very fake looking. or the popular staged-looking photo of the tiny armless cop dummy, face-down on the steps, being “beaten up” by a mob perfectly posed all around it? We know there were government agents in that crowd - Thomas Massie asked about it in a hearing and was refused an answer. Anything similar happen at BLM riots? Did cops start gassing and shooting rubber bullets at BLM people early on, while they were still just standing there peacefully? Did incompetent cop leaders gas their own men at BLM riots? (It's on video!)



Did you know that Ashli Babbit had been trained in riot control? The guy that broke the glass in the door - there’s video of her punching him in the face to make him stop. Later, she kneeled in that window without any weapons. Was she trying to communicate with someone? to help?

(Sorry, the reddit link will send you to a Washington Post article which you are now locked out of unless you have an account with them.)

I"ve seen video of Ashli Babbit asking the police who were standing in front of the door to let the prostestors through because the protestors were on their side (the police). No I can't find it now but I saw it. Kneeling in the window? Wow. That's some creative word salad. Nobody "kneels in a window." She was crawling through it. Her husband claimed that she was trying to get away from the protestors, which again flies in the face of what she was seen saying to the police. Also as the 3 police who were there walked away she could have gone with them if she was really afraid. Or she could have asked them to stay at their posts if she was really "deployed" at the capitol to work with them. Had they stayed at their posts the windows wouldn't have been smashed and she wouldn't have attempted to crawl through and gotten shot. Seconds before she crawled through the officer that shot her revealed himself and showed his gun. Someone yelled "He's got a gun." That should have been enough warning not to go through the barricade, but she went through anyway. As she got shot there were SWAT officers walking up the steps to replace the officers who left. The officers who left should have stayed at their posts for another few minutes. As for the whole "How many were government hired help?" How many of the violent BLM / antifa protestors were government hired help? That's definitely been proven to have happened. Both sides claim theiir protests where peaceful and blame any violence on government infiltrators. Here's an idea. Don't got ot mass protests if there is any chance there will be violence by anybody and leave as soon as anybody does something stupid. The "Q-Anon shaman" didn't smash any windows but when he entered the capitol he came in through a smashed window when the open door was right next to it. Like, why would anyone think that was okay? I feel sorry for peoiple like Dr. Simone Gold was wasn't even there for to election protest but was speaking about medical freedom and got caught up in the crowd and ended up pleading guilty to two federal misdemeanors. But at least she didn't get stuck with a felony.

 

[jmdrake]

That building is a fortress swarming with armed guards and that hallway is a $#@!ing killbox that could be easily defended with force if needed against an angry mob. The barricade was more for the mob's protection than the people's protection on the other side.

Do you still honestly believe that 1 - ONE - person getting past a 95% functional barricade, presented an *immediate* deadly threat to a guard who had the option to retreat?

Do you honestly think that multiple people smashing windows of barricaded doors is the equivalent of moving a podium around as in the OP video which pretends none of that even happened? And I've explained this to you before but you have selective amnesia. Had she been allowed to come through and the cop arrested her others could have climbed through when he was dealign with her. He should have kicked or shoved or punched her back through the window instead of shooting her, but it wasn't as clear cut as you try to pretend. And the fact that it was a "95% functional barracade" (your words) is enough proof that they had no business trying to cross it in the first place, let alone smashing the windows to try to cross it. That's the point. The Babylon Bee's spoof is misleading on what happened. I hate Ashli Babbitt died. But to pretend that the protestors smashing windows with clubs and helments were "peaceful" is laughable.

 

[Valli6]

the 2 riots are just not comparable

I"ve seen video of Ashli Babbit asking the police who were standing in front of the door to let the prostestors through because the protestors were on their side (the police). No I can't find it now but I saw it. Kneeling in the window? Wow. That's some creative word salad. Nobody "kneels in a window." She was crawling through it. Her husband claimed that she was trying to get away from the protestors, which again flies in the face of what she was seen saying to the police. Also as the 3 police who were there walked away she could have gone with them if she was really afraid. Or she could have asked them to stay at their posts if she was really "deployed" at the capitol to work with them. Had they stayed at their posts the windows wouldn't have been smashed and she wouldn't have attempted to crawl through and gotten shot. Seconds before she crawled through the officer that shot her revealed himself and showed his gun. Someone yelled "He's got a gun." That should have been enough warning not to go through the barricade, but she went through anyway. As she got shot there were SWAT officers walking up the steps to replace the officers who left. The officers who left should have stayed at their posts for another few minutes. As for the whole "How many were government hired help?" How many of the violent BLM / antifa protestors were government hired help? That's definitely been proven to have happened. Both sides claim theiir protests where peaceful and blame any violence on government infiltrators. Here's an idea. Don't got ot mass protests if there is any chance there will be violence by anybody and leave as soon as anybody does something stupid. The "Q-Anon shaman" didn't smash any windows but when he entered the capitol he came in through a smashed window when the open door was right next to it. Like, why would anyone think that was okay? I feel sorry for peoiple like Dr. Simone Gold was wasn't even there for to election protest but was speaking about medical freedom and got caught up in the crowd and ended up pleading guilty to two federal misdemeanors. But at least she didn't get stuck with a felony.

I think it’s most accurate to say Babbit was squatting in the broken window - her hands were up - holding onto the edges of the opening, so I think it would be clear she was unarmed. She hadn’t moved through the window yet. You can predict that she intended to jump down on the other side, but she never actually did that, did she? We’ll never know her intention. if you review the video, you’ll note that Babbit was too short to see through that window from a standing position on the floor, so it’s not out of the question that she was trying to get a look at what was going on on the other side. It was noisy, Byrd gave no warning and Babbit may not have been able to spot him from her position. He was wrong to shoot an unarmed woman with her hands up.

The behavior of law enforcement has always been suspicious. They’re all over the place, taking no action, appearing to view the whole situation as pretty innocuous. Suddenly, Byrd decides to kill an unarmed woman who appears in the window - totally unhindered by the many officers standing right there! - and only the bystanders seem shocked by it.

Babbit wasn’t deployed to work at the capitol. It was the Air National Guard unit she had formerly been a member of that was there - however I find it interesting that she had been trained in riot control while she had been a member of that unit. She would have participated in numerous drills where they taught her how a riot goes down, tactics employed by rioters and how to respond. Maybe she saw and recognized behavior that clued her in to something unexpected? Or maybe not, but she would have had a perspective of the situation that would be different from that of someone who’d never been in the middle of a riot before.

I have little doubt there were government people at BLM riots, but the media never ran and reran footage of that violence - in fact they covered it up as best they could. We heard an entirely different narrative from the media and elected officials when depicting these riots/lootings/arsons/assaults (fiery but peaceful). The maimings and murders that occurred have gone unmentioned except from people outside of the mainstream, and we forget that they even happened. Democrats never expressed any empathy for those people harmed and killed during these riots. There were relatively few arrests and generally no prison sentences. Rioters all over the country were immediately bailed out by the likes of antifa and Kamala Harris. To this day, the left maintains that this was all righteous behavior. For these reasons, I find it ridiculous to pretend that the “summer of love” riots and the 3 hour January 6 riot were equally reprehensible.

You’re correct that it’s better to just stay away from obvious violence, but violence isn’t always predictable and that comes awfully close to ignoring the fact that we do have a right to protest our government - that we have a right to protest our government without being set up, encouraged by law enforcement to enter a building we might otherwise not have entered, but they tell us it’s okay so we trust them. We have a right to protest our government without being flash-banged and gassed while we are just standing there holding signs - or trapped and beaten in a tunnel full of an unknown gas till we asphyxiate, or being shot to death while unarmed and not attacking anyone. We should be able to protest without being catalogued in a government database, that is then spread far and wide using government resources, advertised to hate-filled persons with personal political grudges, so that we can be hunted down as if serial killers, then handed brutally excessive sentences by biased persons who prejudge and despise us.

None of that happened to BLM protestors who burned cities, attacked random, innocent people and looted out of sheer selfishness for months - all while being celebrated and protected by democrat government officials and the media.

 

[TheTexan]

Do you honestly think that multiple people smashing windows of barricaded doors is the equivalent of moving a podium around as in the OP video which pretends none of that even happened?

Within context of the point the video was trying to make, yes. The establishment left and mainstream media threw a fear hissy fit not because they were afraid of any windows being broken or even any lives being lost. They threw a fear hissy fit because they were afraid of the outraged right exercising their collective power in a symbolically meaningful way.

And I've explained this to you before but you have selective amnesia. Had she been allowed to come through and the cop arrested her others could have climbed through when he was dealign with her. He should have kicked or shoved or punched her back through the window instead of shooting her, but it wasn't as clear cut as you try to pretend.

Maybe I keep forgetting that you've said that because you keep acting like it was a righteous shoot, which it wasn't. It was a complex situation, sure, but there was a simple fucking answer: point weapons at the intruders and say get on the ground.

And the fact that it was a "95% functional barracade" (your words) is enough proof that they had no business trying to cross it in the first place, let alone smashing the windows to try to cross it. That's the point.

Was it stupid, reckless, and dangerous? Heck yea it was. But guess what, being stupid, reckless, and dangerous, is not immediate reason to shoot someone.

With that said, it probably did cross Ashli's mind that something could happen to her if she kept doing what she was doing. She and others pushed it to the back of their heads because they felt what they were doing was the worth the tiny risk of that happening. It just so happens that the tiny risk wasn't so tiny in Ashli's case.

The Babylon Bee's spoof is misleading on what happened. I hate Ashli Babbitt died. But to pretend that the protestors smashing windows with clubs and helments were "peaceful" is laughable.

It's not misleading, you just entirely missed their point.

 

[Madison320]

It's funny how the left tries to pretend all of the BLM protestors were peaceful and not of the January 6th protestors were and the right tries to pretend all of the January 6th protestors were peaceful and none of the BLM protestors were. Here's an idea. If you're smashing windows and trying to go places that are barracaded, whether they are department stores or the part of the capitol where congress had just been evacuated, maybe you aren't peaceful. Just a thought.

Jan 6 was pretty violent and I was one of the few here to say it was wrong, but the BLM protests were orders of magnitude worse. I was living in the suburbs of nashville and we had curfews on several nights! WTF? I think a couple dozen people were killed nationwide. And the victims were innocent private citizens at their homes and businesses. Jan 6 was stupid but at least they were targeting a government building and not going after private citizens.

 

[Dr.3D]

January 6 was a two part project.

One group of folks was bussed in to riot and cause mayhem, and the other group walked there while the riot was going on.

I suspect the violent part was planned by the democrats and aided by government agencies. They knew there would be protests to the stealing of the vote.

At one end of the building, they had a staged riot and damage. At the other end of the building, the doors were open and people were going in as if going on a tour.

It was a trap and many got caught in it.

 

[TheTexan]

I have little doubt there were government people at BLM riots, but the media never ran and reran footage of that violence - in fact they covered it up as best they could. We heard an entirely different narrative from the media and elected officials when depicting these riots/lootings/arsons/assaults (fiery but peaceful).

I'm not even opposed to that description of the BLM riots - "fiery but peaceful". The point of that description is that most people there were attempting to do property damage versus violence against people, which is probably mostly true.

But of course that description would have been just as if not more accurate for the Jan 6 protestors. As far as riots go, it was pretty fucking tame, with people thanking Officers and them giving them tours and such.

The media's widely different depiction of the two events does show however the obvious hypocrisy.

 

[jmdrake]

Jan 6 was pretty violent and I was one of the few here to say it was wrong, but the BLM protests were orders of magnitude worse. I was living in the suburbs of nashville and we had curfews on several nights! WTF? I think a couple dozen people were killed nationwide. And the victims were innocent private citizens at their homes and businesses. Jan 6 was stupid but at least they were targeting a government building and not going after private citizens.

I was in between Nashville and Birmingham at the time and I don't disagree.

 

[jmdrake]

Within context of the point the video was trying to make, yes. The establishment left and mainstream media threw a fear hissy fit not because they were afraid of any windows being broken or even any lives being lost. They threw a fear hissy fit because they were afraid of the outraged right exercising their collective power in a symbolically meaningful way.



Maybe I keep forgetting that you've said that because you keep acting like it was a righteous shoot, which it wasn't. It was a complex situation, sure, but there was a simple $#@!ing answer: point weapons at the intruders and say get on the ground.



Was it stupid, reckless, and dangerous? Heck yea it was. But guess what, being stupid, reckless, and dangerous, is not immediate reason to shoot someone.

With that said, it probably did cross Ashli's mind that something could happen to her if she kept doing what she was doing. She and others pushed it to the back of their heads because they felt what they were doing was the worth the tiny risk of that happening. It just so happens that the tiny risk wasn't so tiny in Ashli's case.



It's not misleading, you just entirely missed their point.

The last time we talked about this I landed on "He should have just Spartan kicked her." There's really no such thing as a "good shooting" in my book because something has gone wrong to get to that point. (I guess shooting a deer when you're hungry is a good shooting but that's besides the point). I think there should have been a trial of the officer who should Ashley Babbit or at the very a public adversarial hearing where he had to explain himself. I don't buy the "It's obviously murder" argument that Tucker Carlson and others gave who seem to always want due process and "wait for all of the facts" for every other officier involved shooting. (I'm not sure what Tucker has to say for the officer who has now admitted he shot Sonya Massie in the face because he took "I rebuke you in the name of Jesus" to be a threat.)

As for the point of the Babylon Bee sketch, I get it. I'm just making a counter point. It's misleading. And everytime I've seen Fox News cover January 6th being "peaceful" the only show the peaceful parts. CNN only shows the violent parts. Same in reverse for the BLM protests. [MENTION=9366]Dr.3D[/MENTION] hit the nail on the head. There were two sets of protestors on January 6th. There were two sets of protestors for the BLM protests. Both sides have people who can honestly say that the protests they were involved in were peaceful. And I'm certain there were government provecetures who inflitrated both groups. And in both groups there were people who were not with the government who got carried away with the violence because they were gullible and impressionable. And that is how you divide and conquer. Go all the way back to the Tea Party protests which were followed by the Occupy Wallstreet protests. Both groups were made about the same thing yet both groups saw the other group as the problem. There is an old video that I can't find now of a Sarah Palin supporter who just couldn't believe Palin supported the banker bailouts. We're so easily manipulated it's not even funny.

 

[TheTexan]

As for the point of the Babylon Bee sketch, I get it. I'm just making a counter point. It's misleading. And everytime I've seen Fox News cover January 6th being "peaceful" the only show the peaceful parts. CNN only shows the violent parts. Same in reverse for the BLM protests. [MENTION=9366]Dr.3D[/MENTION] hit the nail on the head. There were two sets of protestors on January 6th. There were two sets of protestors for the BLM protests. Both sides have people who can honestly say that the protests they were involved in were peaceful. And I'm certain there were government provecetures who inflitrated both groups. And in both groups there were people who were not with the government who got carried away with the violence because they were gullible and impressionable. And that is how you divide and conquer. Go all the way back to the Tea Party protests which were followed by the Occupy Wallstreet protests. Both groups were made about the same thing yet both groups saw the other group as the problem. There is an old video that I can't find now of a Sarah Palin supporter who just couldn't believe Palin supported the banker bailouts. We're so easily manipulated it's not even funny.

Well, it was a riot, it's not gonna be peaceful. If it was all scones and crackers and tea then it wouldn't be called a riot.

I don't like this need for people on the right (not necessarily you) to try to differentiate between the "peaceful" and the "violent" protestors. Let's be real here it was a god-damn riot. There's gonna be violent protestors and peaceful protestors but they're all participating in a goddamn riot which is not gonna be peaceful or otherwise they'd call it afternoon tea with scones and biscuits.

I also don't like the need for people on the right to try to disassociate or disavow themselves of the "violent" portion of the riot. January 6 was a goddamn marvel of modern anger against the establishment and it should be celebrated as such. Regardless of however hundreds of feds were in the crowd instigating or not, every rioter there is a goddamn hero. People back in the day probably called the original Tea Party rioters stupid & gullible, but at least they were men of action. Rather than sitting on our ass and commentating about how stupid someone is, as if that somehow makes us better than them.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Well, it was a riot, it's not gonna be peaceful. If it was all scones and crackers and tea then it wouldn't be called a riot.

I don't like this need for people on the right (not necessarily you) to try to differentiate between the "peaceful" and the "violent" protestors. Let's be real here it was a god-damn riot. There's gonna be violent protestors and peaceful protestors but they're all participating in a goddamn riot which is not gonna be peaceful or otherwise they'd call it afternoon tea with scones and biscuits.

I also don't like the need for people on the right to try to disassociate or disavow themselves of the "violent" portion of the riot. January 6 was a goddamn marvel of modern anger against the establishment and it should be celebrated as such. Regardless of however hundreds of feds were in the crowd instigating or not, every rioter there is a goddamn hero. People back in the day probably called the original Tea Party rioters stupid & gullible, but at least they were men of action. Rather than sitting on our ass and commentating about how stupid someone is, as if that somehow makes us better than them.