Are there cops for Ron Paul?

[james1906]

The 'finest' of my town are running another DUI/license checkpoint down the street. Of course, this violation of the 4th amendment disgusts me. Unlike the military, I never hear about cops refusing orders to enforce laws or perform operations they find illegal or unjust.

So I can't help but wonder, are there cops for Ron Paul?

 

[FSP-Rebel]

Probabably not. They are order followers. No independent thought is necessary. Cops make money at the expense of mistaken citizens. Citizens don't do so well when the cops are strict.

 

[specsaregood]

Probabably not. They are order followers. No independent thought is necessary. Cops make money at the expense of mistaken citizens. Citizens don't do so well when the cops are strict.

Don't be so quick. I would be surprised if at least some of the members of
http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php didn't support him on that one issue alone.

 

[james1906]

Don't be so quick. I would be surprised if at least some of the members of
http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php didn't support him on that one issue alone.

i wonder how many cops support legalization or decriminalization

 

[remaxjon]

my brother is a cop and he supports Ron Paul

 

[mdh]

i wonder how many cops support legalization or decriminalization

The percentages seem about the same as the rest of the citizenry - in that the vast majority don't particularly care either way.

 

[richard1984]

I know that at least one person on this forum is a police officer.

 

[SwordOfShannarah]

The 'finest' of my town are running another DUI/license checkpoint down the street. Of course, this violation of the 4th amendment disgusts me. Unlike the military, I never hear about cops refusing orders to enforce laws or perform operations they find illegal or unjust.

So I can't help but wonder, are there cops for Ron Paul?

Has anyone ever challenged these checkpoints in court?

 

[rpliving]

Drove by one tonight on the other side of the highway.

 

[rpliving]

Has anyone ever challenged these checkpoints in court?

yes, but the system is a joke. Dont even think you have rights unless you want to get Fed in ass.

 

[james1906]

Has anyone ever challenged these checkpoints in court?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sobriety_checkpoints

blame rehnquist

 

[LibertyOrDie]

Don't be so quick. I would be surprised if at least some of the members of
http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php didn't support him on that one issue alone.

Nice find!

I am going to contact them, here is there info that is found at http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php?name=Contact:

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Here is the letter I am sending:

I found your contact information on the www.leap.cc website. I was just recently made aware of this website, and am truly inspired by all of your members’ courage to be outspoken about this issue that has plagued our country to take action against its citizens. Also, the crime element the “War on Drugs” has helped foster and let’s not even begin to discuss the Federal spending it has acquired.

With so much that can be accomplished with the end of the “War on Drugs”, I was wondering if you were aware of the Presidential Candidate, Congressman Dr. Ron Paul. He has been openly critical and calling for the end of the “War on Drugs” for many years. You can read many of his articles and speeches over the years concerning this issue here: www.ronpaullibrary.org/topic.php?id=23.

This important issue and the need for leaders in our society to help bring the change of the “War on Drugs” upon us can only be within our abilities if we take hold of the opportunities when we can. Right now, placing a President that has that same outlook would be phenomenal to this movement. I hope I can encourage you to spread this information to your members.

You can see where Congressman Dr. Ron Paul stands on all issues at his website: www.RonPaul2008.com, also read over 900 articles and speeches that have been categorized at www.RonPaulLibrary.com.

Thank you for your time, and please let me know if you have any questions or comments.

- Shawn ( Concerned American )

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I'll let you all know what kind of a response I get.

 

[Santana28]

...

i'm not a cop, but i currently work security and have been testing for local PDs...

i work with police officers on a daily basis. the ones i know are all very upstanding people with varied ideals about society and who want to do their part and contribute, in some way, to making this world a little better place to live in on a daily basis.

cops are normal folks just like you or i. remember - the only way to change a corrupt system is to step up and do your part.

 

[zMtLlC]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sobriety_checkpoints

blame rehnquist

Although acknowledging that such checkpoints infringed on a constitutional right, Chief Justice Rehnquist argued that the state interest in reducing drunk driving outweighed this minor infringement.

Don't forget that the good of the collective outweighs all of your so-called "rights."

 

[jorlowitz]

Cops and DUIs

This is a tough issue...

First of all, FSP-Rebel:

Cops may follow orders as part of their job (many people do), but they'll also likely take a bullet to protect you. Not that law enforcement is perfect, but in essence law enforcers are just that... enforcers. They don't make the laws, and 'they' didn't legalize these checkpoints. Much like we can blame Bush's administrative excessive on a pathetically timid congress, we can really only blame a cop's perceived excesses (the legal ones at least) on the laws. So, I guess, watch it before you condemn people whose sole purpose is to enforce the laws and risk their lives to do so.

Second, more of a question:

DUIs cause tens thousands of deaths each year. I'm curious if people have other ideas about how to keep roads safe (roads being a public resource can benefit from some regulation). Would you prefer a privately produced but certified in-car breathalizer system that won't start if you BAC is above a certain level? Seriously...

 

[james1906]

This is a tough issue...

First of all, FSP-Rebel:

Cops may follow orders as part of their job (many people do), but they'll also likely take a bullet to protect you. Not that law enforcement is perfect, but in essence law enforcers are just that... enforcers. They don't make the laws, and 'they' didn't legalize these checkpoints. Much like we can blame Bush's administrative excessive on a pathetically timid congress, we can really only blame a cop's perceived excesses (the legal ones at least) on the laws. So, I guess, watch it before you condemn people whose sole purpose is to enforce the laws and risk their lives to do so.

Second, more of a question:

DUIs cause tens thousands of deaths each year. I'm curious if people have other ideas about how to keep roads safe (roads being a public resource can benefit from some regulation). Would you prefer a privately produced but certified in-car breathalizer system that won't start if you BAC is above a certain level? Seriously...

saturation patrols are unquestionably legal. that's where there's a large police presence, but cops need probable cause to pull you over.

 

[american.swan]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sobriety_checkpoints

blame rehnquist

Here in Korea they do that too, except, they use a hand held breath test. You drive up to them, they stick the thing partly in the window, blow, peep sounds, off you go. Takes no time at all.

 

[Craig_R]

Second, more of a question:

DUIs cause tens thousands of deaths each year. I'm curious if people have other ideas about how to keep roads safe (roads being a public resource can benefit from some regulation). Would you prefer a privately produced but certified in-car breathalizer system that won't start if you BAC is above a certain level? Seriously...

hell no

 

[Slugg]

i wonder how many cops support legalization or decriminalization

Quite a few actually, there are many organizations of ex-officers/judges/and Sheriffs who are fighting to end the war on drugs. We all know why the war on drugs is silly, Cops think so also.

 

[hillaryandgore]

Is the police Liberal or conservative?

I have a thread on the issue of police

Is Police Liberal or Conservative
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=80391#post80391