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A 13-year-old German schoolboy corrected NASA's estimates on the chances of an asteroid colliding with Earth, a German newspaper reported Tuesday, after spotting the boffins had miscalculated.
Nico Marquardt used telescopic findings from the Institute of Astrophysics in Potsdam (AIP) to calculate that there was a 1 in 450 chance that the Apophis asteroid will collide with Earth, the Potsdamer Neuerster Nachrichten reported.

NASA had previously estimated the chances at only 1 in 45,000 but told its sister organisation, the European Space Agency (ESA), that the young whizzkid had got it right.

The schoolboy took into consideration the risk of Apophis running into one or more of the 40,000 satellites orbiting Earth during its path close to the planet on April 13 2029.

Those satellites travel at 3.07 kilometres a second (1.9 miles), at up to 35,880 kilometres above earth -- and the Apophis asteroid will pass by earth at a distance of 32,500 kilometres.

If the asteroid strikes a satellite in 2029, that will change its trajectory making it hit earth on its next orbit in 2036.

Both NASA and Marquardt agree that if the asteroid does collide with earth, it will create a ball of iron and iridium 320 metres (1049 feet) wide and weighing 200 billion tonnes, which will crash into the Atlantic Ocean.

The shockwaves from that would create huge tsunami waves, destroying both coastlines and inland areas, whilst creating a thick cloud of dust that would darken the skies indefinitely.

The 13-year old made his discovery as part of a regional science competition for which he submitted a project entitled: "Apophis -- The Killer Astroid."

http://www.physorg.com/news127499715.html
 
When I read that story earlier this morning, I couldn't stop laughing. My cat gave me odd looks.
 
More free-market competition for NASA--they screwed up on Hubble among other things, we can do better!
 
This story is a load of crap. No human being could make all of the calculations needed to predict something like this. Think about how many things would have to be taken into consideration....
 
i dont care, i just love when NASA gets owned, especially by some german child..


what, did they tell him he was right to be nice?!

Astronaut bastards.
 
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A 13-year-old German schoolboy corrected NASA's estimates on the chances of an asteroid colliding with Earth, a German newspaper reported Tuesday, after spotting the boffins had miscalculated.
Nico Marquardt used telescopic findings from the Institute of Astrophysics in Potsdam (AIP) to calculate that there was a 1 in 450 chance that the Apophis asteroid will collide with Earth, the Potsdamer Neuerster Nachrichten reported.

NASA had previously estimated the chances at only 1 in 45,000 but told its sister organisation, the European Space Agency (ESA), that the young whizzkid had got it right.

The schoolboy took into consideration the risk of Apophis running into one or more of the 40,000 satellites orbiting Earth during its path close to the planet on April 13 2029.

Those satellites travel at 3.07 kilometres a second (1.9 miles), at up to 35,880 kilometres above earth -- and the Apophis asteroid will pass by earth at a distance of 32,500 kilometres.

If the asteroid strikes a satellite in 2029, that will change its trajectory making it hit earth on its next orbit in 2036.

Both NASA and Marquardt agree that if the asteroid does collide with earth, it will create a ball of iron and iridium 320 metres (1049 feet) wide and weighing 200 billion tonnes, which will crash into the Atlantic Ocean.

The shockwaves from that would create huge tsunami waves, destroying both coastlines and inland areas, whilst creating a thick cloud of dust that would darken the skies indefinitely.

The 13-year old made his discovery as part of a regional science competition for which he submitted a project entitled: "Apophis -- The Killer Astroid."

http://www.physorg.com/news127499715.html

I read through this article and it looks like absolute nonsense.

Trust but verify, I guarantee that if you give me a few more minutes, I can prove this story is ridiculous.
 

You're the moron if it you actually had to do research to find out this story is false.


To calculate the probability of this you would have to do the following.

1. Calculate the probability that the asteroid would strike one of earth's satellites. This would involve calculating the projection of the asteroid, taking into account any intereference that cuold happen in the meantime. Then you would have to calculate the trajectory of 40,000 satellites and determine if any of them would cross paths with the asteroid.

This would not be impossible. Assuming one had substantial computing power and knowledge of the current position and velocity of all 40,000 satellites and the asteroid, it could be done. It is highely unlikely that a 13 year old could do this, but sure, not impossible.

2. You would have to calculate the surface topology of all 40,000 satellites and the asteroid. Each satellite would have its own probability of the surface area that would be impacted. Then based on the specific topology, velocity, and position you would have to predict the deflection angle and momentum loss to an absurdly high (impossible) degree of accuracy. To assume that your calculation would still be accurate 7 YEARS later to the point where you could pinpoint exactly the point on earth where the asteroid will impact is utterly nonsensible.

No one could caluclate this.
 
I owned NASA whenI was 7 years old! My dad had worked for a fuel plant that provided the rocket fuel and some other chemicals.

NASA employees had a family day where the kids of employees were given a tour of a little museum (not sure if it was JSC, too small). We were shown an exhibit dedicated to rocket launches. I asked "Why can't NASA just make rockets take off like a plane?" His answer was "Because your Dad needs his job."

Now they have actually launched a spacecraft through takeoff rather than launch. I like to sit back and tell myself, "I thought about that first."
 
You're the moron if it you actually had to do research to find out this story is false.


To calculate the probability of this you would have to do the following.

1. Calculate the probability that the asteroid would strike one of earth's satellites. This would involve calculating the projection of the asteroid, taking into account any intereference that cuold happen in the meantime. Then you would have to calculate the trajectory of 40,000 satellites and determine if any of them would cross paths with the asteroid.

This would not be impossible. Assuming one had substantial computing power and knowledge of the current position and velocity of all 40,000 satellites and the asteroid, it could be done. It is highely unlikely that a 13 year old could do this, but sure, not impossible.

2. You would have to calculate the surface topology of all 40,000 satellites and the asteroid. Each satellite would have its own probability of the surface area that would be impacted. Then based on the specific topology, velocity, and position you would have to predict the deflection angle and momentum loss to an absurdly high (impossible) degree of accuracy. To assume that your calculation would still be accurate 7 YEARS later to the point where you could pinpoint exactly the point on earth where the asteroid will impact is utterly nonsensible.

No one could caluclate this.

Which is why I suspected it was wrong... Contrivance is safe once you have the facts, isn't it Brandon?
 
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