12 million this quarter??

[CavortingChicken]

How much will 12 million really help this campaign? What will the media say about it if anything? Do ron paul's chances go up alot?

 

[mtmedlin]

The media will shit the proverbial brick! IT will give him enough money to campaign hard, not only in the early primary states but will give him legs to fight through super tuesday and beyond. He can actually spend money on states like California where his ideas will be very well received. Along with increase in polls, like 7.4% in NH and rising, he will become undeniably a first tier candidate and they will begin to treat him as such.

 

[Ron Paul Fan]

First of all, Welcome to the Forums Mr. Chicken!

To answer your question, YES! $12 million will help tremendously! That puts us up in the top tier candidate fundraising. You better believe they'll say a lot about it! Just think how much press we got for $5 million! If we reach the goal it will definitely put us ahead of McCain in donations. Thompson, Romney, and Giuliani's max donors are already tapped! Then you figure in all of the advertising we can do with all this money and his chances go up by leaps and bounds! If we can get up to $3 million by the end of this quarter we should be in pretty good shape.

 

[BLS]

The media will shit the proverbial brick! IT will give him enough money to campaign hard, not only in the early primary states but will give him legs to fight through super tuesday and beyond. He can actually spend money on states like California where his ideas will be very well received. Along with increase in polls, like 7.4% in NH and rising, he will become undeniably a first tier candidate and they will begin to treat him as such.

What HE said.

 

[koob]

i dont see how they could ignore it.

i'm really hoping we win new hampshire. that's my biggest concern. if we get new hampshire then everything can fall into place.

 

[DJ RP]

I try not to be a conspriacy theorist but if the mainstream media is expected to respond to fundraising then why do they keep pushing huckabee as 'top-tier' and talking about him way more than Ron Paul when paul raised 5x his amount last quarter????

Is it to do with the poll numbers?

 

[brandon]

The fundraising totals will not mean too much as far as media goes. The anouncment for the totals wont come until around january 10th, which is after several primaries already happened. By that time, if Paul did not do well in the early primaries, no media covereage will help him.

That doesnt mean the money isnt important though. The money is very important.

 

[brandon]

I try not to be a conspriacy theorist but if the mainstream media is expected to respond to fundraising then why do they keep pushing huckabee as 'top-tier' and talking about him way more than Ron Paul when paul raised 5x his amount last quarter????

Is it to do with the poll numbers?

No it is because they dont wan't an anti-empire candidate to win.

 

[Brinck Slattery]

yes, it's all about poll numbers. Plus, there's a Huckabee push going on right now. Hell, Gail Collins wrote an editorial about how great he is in the NYT this morning. GAIL COLLINS!

He's a dark horse that the media "gets," i.e. he wants to use the power of government to impress his will upon the people. He's not an alien like Ron Paul.

12 million dollars would destroy any doubts about whether or not he's a mainstream candidate. That would be on par with Giuliani, who has already more or less saturated the market for 2,300 dollar donations.

 

[philgest]

My thoughts...

I think that meeting....and exceeding the 12 million goal will speak volumes about the strength of this campaign, especially given that the MSN anointed front runners have a downward spiral in terms of fund raising, while the campaign of Dr. Paul is on an upward trajectory, having doubled the amount raised with each successive quarter.

Further, 12 million is what the campaign said is needed to mount a serious national campaign for the nomination. Expenses abound from office rental, travel expenses, broadcast advertisements, print media advertisements and so on and to mount a serious campaign money is needed, and the 12 million dollar number is what the management of Dr. Paul estimated is needed.

I do believe we will meet...and exceed the 12 million goal by 31 December.
I believe the 5th of November will be a 1.5 million dollar day.
And I believe this Revolution is for real!

 

[freelance]

I try not to be a conspriacy theorist but if the mainstream media is expected to respond to fundraising then why do they keep pushing huckabee as 'top-tier' and talking about him way more than Ron Paul when paul raised 5x his amount last quarter????

Because he's TPTB flavor du jour. They're giving him a try since Freddie bombed.

 

[Ron Paul Fan]

The fundraising totals will not mean too much as far as media goes. The anouncment for the totals wont come until around january 10th, which is after several primaries already happened. By that time, if Paul did not do well in the early primaries, no media covereage will help him.

That doesnt mean the money isnt important though. The money is very important.

No. We're running a live total, remember? So we'll pretty much know by the end of December how much he's raised and that word will get out! Just in time for the Iowa caucus on January 3rd!

 

[brandon]

No. We're running a live total, remember? So we'll pretty much know by the end of December how much he's raised and that word will get out! Just in time for the Iowa caucus on January 3rd!

Yea, but the media wont have any candidates to compare our numbers with until after january, so there is no reason to assume our fundraising will get much coverage before then. Lets hope I am wrong though.

 

[centure7]

I try not to be a conspriacy theorist but if the mainstream media is expected to respond to fundraising then why do they keep pushing huckabee as 'top-tier' and talking about him way more than Ron Paul when paul raised 5x his amount last quarter????

Is it to do with the poll numbers?

I think they view Ron Paul as too "out there" to have a chance. Personally it was my biggest thing against him when I first considered donating. In fact he does seeem to have different views than other politicians and a lot of people will hate him for it. But the REASON he has these views that are so different is because he does not let public opinion, special interests, or MSM tell him what to think. He is a real philosopher with books published. Perhaps any philosopher with books published would appear to have some extreme views if they actually went on stage and supported them without compromise. In fact the only "extreme" thing he has said is getting rid of the IRS and reppealing its underlying amendment, but in fact there is enough reasonable reasons against it (our founding fathers wouldn't have wanted it) and enough realistic evidence it could be done (if you look at the data there really is at least some solid ground for that goal being realistic) that it isn't really as extreme as people first think. We started off with low and commercially centered taxes, therefore it isn't that extreme to roll back to that idea.

 

[shepburn]

I try not to be a conspriacy theorist but if the mainstream media is expected to respond to fundraising then why do they keep pushing huckabee as 'top-tier' and talking about him way more than Ron Paul when paul raised 5x his amount last quarter????

Is it to do with the poll numbers?

While you are partially corrrect ... I disagree with the extent to which you claim the media is controlled. I to agree that the very inner circle media elite actually influnce their content to get a desired result. However, most journalist are not directly trying to rig anything. They are simply following protocal. They sincerly believe in the polls (as the polls are historically fairly decent at predicting elections when name recognition is saturated). My point is that for us to get more coverage, we have to either 1) get the phone poll numbers up or 2) win New Hampshire.

 

[Elwar]

Umm...it's not like he'll have $12 million in January to start spending on advertising.

It means he'll have $12 million raised between now and January which he will be able to spend between now and then.

That means a lot of advertising.

The media part of it is minor compared to the help it gives the campaign.

I predict that only Mitt Romney will have more money than Ron Paul at the end of the quarter if he can get $12 million (And Mitt will only have that much because of his deep pockets). The other candidates are on a downward path as far as fundraising goes.

By then, it'll be about primary wins rather than money. But those donations help the campaign NOW.

 

[BrianH]

I do believe we will meet...and exceed the 12 million goal by 31 December.
I believe the 5th of November will be a 1.5 million dollar day.
And I believe this Revolution is for real!

I agree!! And I've been adding http://www.thisnovember5th.com/ to the bottom of messages I am sending for the MySpace friends of Ron Paul drive. I am amazed at the number who respond saying they will give each month AND the 5th of November- one said $1000. Since Ron Paul said "why would anyone object if people want to give on one day?" on the Adam Curry podcast yesterday I have resumed promoting it. Already 9,000 pledges and I suspect a huge number more on the side waiting but not pledging. Nov 5th should blow $2 million easily in a day maybe a lot more. So $12 million looks very doable!

 

[Primbs]

The media and DC political insiders look at money. They are very jaded.

Right now some may look at Ron Paul and say maybe he can win one or two states but can Ron Paul win ten in a row in the later primaries. Is he a national presence?


Ron Paul has the best national grassroots, although they can still be greatly improved, but he also needs the money.

That is why Ron Paul needs to raise money in the eight figures or over ten million to combat that skepticism.

Ron Paul is on a great upward trajectory unlike the other candidates.

 

[Ron Paul Fan]

With supporters like Hall of Famer Patrick Ewing, we'll definitely make $12 million!

 

[LibertyEagle]

Too cool.