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Thread: How do People On RPF Feel About the Conceal Carry Incident (link inside)

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    How do People On RPF Feel About the Conceal Carry Incident (link inside)

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...gunpoint/page5

    I was disappointed by the responses given by some RPF members on this video, so I posted a reply that I thought was agreeable to most people. Instead, I have lost more faith in humanity in the discussion that followed.

    This actually happened once before. But last time many people posted after me saying that they agreed, and not to worry because some RP supporters were a little nutty. As of now, it looks as though I am alone in my view, which I thought was perfectly reasonable to everyone. Please post/vote here and reassure me.

    You know that feeling I am going through now? Like the feeling from reading the posts on facebook when Osama died. Like all of humanity is just not worth saving because they end up so $#@!ed up anyway. Like Holden McCaulfield. That's how I feel right now. Help me out.



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  3. #2
    Are cops also dicks simply for open carrying?
    "Truth will win in the end. We just don't know when the end is. So we have to persevere." ― Carol Paul


  4. #3
    No. Because it doesn't cause a panic. It is a norm.

  5. #4
    LibForestPaul
    Member

    Quote Originally Posted by cdc482 View Post
    No. Because it doesn't cause a panic. It is a norm.
    Why is one a norm and one not? Officers in Britain did not carry for decades.

    Why am I responsible for other people's reactions? Childish as they may be?

    If you or others are panicking because of legal behavior, perhaps you and others need to learn about American values.

  6. #5
    You forgot to add, 'is cdc482 being a dick'.
    "IF GOD DIDN'T WANT TO HELP AMERICA, THEN WE WOULD HAVE Hillary Clinton"!!
    "let them search you,touch you,violate your Rights,just don't be a dick!"~ cdc482
    "For Wales. Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world. But for Wales?"
    All my life I've been at the mercy of men just following orders... Never again!~Erik Lehnsherr
    There's nothing wrong with stopping people randomly, especially near bars, restaurants etc.~Velho

  7. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by cdc482 View Post
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...gunpoint/page5

    I was disappointed by the responses given by some RPF members on this video, so I posted a reply that I thought was agreeable to most people. Instead, I have lost more faith in humanity in the discussion that followed.

    This actually happened once before. But last time many people posted after me saying that they agreed, and not to worry because some RP supporters were a little nutty. As of now, it looks as though I am alone in my view, which I thought was perfectly reasonable to everyone. Please post/vote here and reassure me.

    You know that feeling I am going through now? Like the feeling from reading the posts on facebook when Osama died. Like all of humanity is just not worth saving because they end up so $#@!ed up anyway. Like Holden McCaulfield. That's how I feel right now. Help me out.
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    "IF GOD DIDN'T WANT TO HELP AMERICA, THEN WE WOULD HAVE Hillary Clinton"!!
    "let them search you,touch you,violate your Rights,just don't be a dick!"~ cdc482
    "For Wales. Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world. But for Wales?"
    All my life I've been at the mercy of men just following orders... Never again!~Erik Lehnsherr
    There's nothing wrong with stopping people randomly, especially near bars, restaurants etc.~Velho

  8. #7
    Ehhhhh, what's being a dick mean?

  9. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Ehhhhh, what's being a dick mean?
    Making this thread?
    "IF GOD DIDN'T WANT TO HELP AMERICA, THEN WE WOULD HAVE Hillary Clinton"!!
    "let them search you,touch you,violate your Rights,just don't be a dick!"~ cdc482
    "For Wales. Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world. But for Wales?"
    All my life I've been at the mercy of men just following orders... Never again!~Erik Lehnsherr
    There's nothing wrong with stopping people randomly, especially near bars, restaurants etc.~Velho



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  11. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by aGameOfThrones View Post
    You forgot to add, 'is cdc482 being a dick'.
    this^^
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
    Hear/buy my music here "government is the enemy of liberty"-RP Support me on Patreon here Ephesians 6:12

  12. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by aGameOfThrones View Post
    Making this thread?
    Sorry, but I grew up in the 60s, is being a dick the same as being a prick?

  13. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by aGameOfThrones View Post
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    Thank you

  14. #12
    "The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good." -George Washington
    ...

  15. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by aGameOfThrones View Post
    You forgot to add, 'is cdc482 being a dick'.
    I would vote for that

  16. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by AquaBuddha2010 View Post
    ...



    "The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good." -George Washington


    Stupid Ron Paul supporter!

    /s
    "IF GOD DIDN'T WANT TO HELP AMERICA, THEN WE WOULD HAVE Hillary Clinton"!!
    "let them search you,touch you,violate your Rights,just don't be a dick!"~ cdc482
    "For Wales. Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world. But for Wales?"
    All my life I've been at the mercy of men just following orders... Never again!~Erik Lehnsherr
    There's nothing wrong with stopping people randomly, especially near bars, restaurants etc.~Velho

  17. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by cdc482 View Post
    No. Because it doesn't cause a panic. It is a norm.
    Not exercising rights because they are no longer in fashion leads to those rights not being legally protected any more. If nobody was a "dick" and open carried, it would be quickly outlawed due to a lack of advocacy. You indicated in the other thread that you supported the right to OC. How then would you also support a course of action that would lead to it being outlawed?

    Also, Sikh turbans and kirpans in public make many people uncomfortable, and people have been known to panic and call the police over them because they think they are "terrorists". Does this mean they are dicks for practicing their religion which requires them to wear these items?
    "Truth will win in the end. We just don't know when the end is. So we have to persevere." ― Carol Paul


  18. #16
    Wow, has RPF really changed so much since the OP was here last?



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  20. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Expatriate View Post
    Not exercising rights because they are no longer in fashion leads to those rights not being legally protected any more. If nobody was a "dick" and open carried, it would be quickly outlawed due to a lack of advocacy. You indicated in the other thread that you supported the right to OC. How then would you also support a course of action that would lead to it being outlawed?

    Also, Sikh turbans and kirpans in public make many people uncomfortable, and people have been known to panic and call the police over them because they think they are "terrorists". Does this mean they are dicks for practicing their religion which requires them to wear these items?

    The color of people's skin used cause immense panic. In fact, to some it still does.
    "IF GOD DIDN'T WANT TO HELP AMERICA, THEN WE WOULD HAVE Hillary Clinton"!!
    "let them search you,touch you,violate your Rights,just don't be a dick!"~ cdc482
    "For Wales. Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world. But for Wales?"
    All my life I've been at the mercy of men just following orders... Never again!~Erik Lehnsherr
    There's nothing wrong with stopping people randomly, especially near bars, restaurants etc.~Velho

  21. #18
    Damn.
    Today a backpack causes panic. A empty bag or box causes panic.
    tourists taking pictures causes panic.

    Do you WANT that to be the "norm" or do you want to discourage that stupid behavior?
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  22. #19
    OP, seeing a gun doesn't cause a panic in most people. In my circle of friends and relatives, most of them don't get paniced over the site of a gun

  23. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by cdc482 View Post
    No. Because it doesn't cause a panic. It is a norm.


    It Is.
    God help us. if that is normal and this is not.



    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post


    It Is.
    God help us. if that is normal and this is not.



    Rep+
    "IF GOD DIDN'T WANT TO HELP AMERICA, THEN WE WOULD HAVE Hillary Clinton"!!
    "let them search you,touch you,violate your Rights,just don't be a dick!"~ cdc482
    "For Wales. Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world. But for Wales?"
    All my life I've been at the mercy of men just following orders... Never again!~Erik Lehnsherr
    There's nothing wrong with stopping people randomly, especially near bars, restaurants etc.~Velho

  25. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by AquaBuddha2010 View Post
    ...
    I heard he was a terrorist and with Al-Qaeda...


    /s
    Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives. -James Madison

  26. #23
    14 trillion national debt, don't panic... It's the norm.
    "IF GOD DIDN'T WANT TO HELP AMERICA, THEN WE WOULD HAVE Hillary Clinton"!!
    "let them search you,touch you,violate your Rights,just don't be a dick!"~ cdc482
    "For Wales. Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world. But for Wales?"
    All my life I've been at the mercy of men just following orders... Never again!~Erik Lehnsherr
    There's nothing wrong with stopping people randomly, especially near bars, restaurants etc.~Velho

  27. #24
    Show me a picture of a guy carrying a gun around in a shopping mall.

    Brb, I have to go eat dog feces. I heard that Congress would make it illegal if no one in the entire country did it all year.

    Word of advice just because you might turn off some potential Ron Paul supporters: putting words in the mouth of your opponent and/or demonizing them is probably the best way to look stupid in a political discussion.
    Last edited by cdc482; 05-17-2011 at 08:26 PM.



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  29. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by cdc482 View Post
    Show me a picture of a guy carrying a gun around in a shopping mall.

    Brb, I have to go eat dog feces. I heard that Congress would make it illegal if no one in the entire country did it all year.

    Word of advice just because you might turn off some potential Ron Paul supporters: putting words in the mouth of your opponent and/or demonizing them is probably the best way to look stupid in a political discussion.
    "IF GOD DIDN'T WANT TO HELP AMERICA, THEN WE WOULD HAVE Hillary Clinton"!!
    "let them search you,touch you,violate your Rights,just don't be a dick!"~ cdc482
    "For Wales. Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world. But for Wales?"
    All my life I've been at the mercy of men just following orders... Never again!~Erik Lehnsherr
    There's nothing wrong with stopping people randomly, especially near bars, restaurants etc.~Velho

  30. #26
    Well, I don't have a picture, but the next time I go, I'll be sure to have Mrs. AF snap one.

    Open carry of course.

    Since I'm out in the woods and it takes a while to get to the mall, how about a hardware store? Gas station? Feed store? NAPA?

    Quote Originally Posted by cdc482 View Post
    Show me a picture of a guy carrying a gun around in a shopping mall.

    Brb, I have to go eat dog feces. I heard that Congress would make it illegal if no one in the entire country did it all year.

    Word of advice just because you might turn off some potential Ron Paul supporters: putting words in the mouth of your opponent and/or demonizing them is probably the best way to look stupid in a political discussion.

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by cdc482 View Post
    Show me a picture of a guy carrying a gun around in a shopping mall.

    Brb, I have to go eat dog feces. I heard that Congress would make it illegal if no one in the entire country did it all year.

    Word of advice just because you might turn off some potential Ron Paul supporters: putting words in the mouth of your opponent and/or demonizing them is probably the best way to look stupid in a political discussion.
    Discussion? LOL
    "IF GOD DIDN'T WANT TO HELP AMERICA, THEN WE WOULD HAVE Hillary Clinton"!!
    "let them search you,touch you,violate your Rights,just don't be a dick!"~ cdc482
    "For Wales. Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world. But for Wales?"
    All my life I've been at the mercy of men just following orders... Never again!~Erik Lehnsherr
    There's nothing wrong with stopping people randomly, especially near bars, restaurants etc.~Velho

  32. #28
    You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.

    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post


    It Is.
    God help us. if that is normal and this is not.



    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Well, I don't have a picture, but the next time I go, I'll be sure to have Mrs. AF snap one.

    Open carry of course.

    Since I'm out in the woods and it takes a while to get to the mall, how about a hardware store? Gas station? Feed store? NAPA?

    I'm not sure if it was you(most likely) who posted a few stories about people freaking out at malls 'cause they thought they saw a man with a gun that later turned out to be an umbrella. 'cause umbrellas are not the norm.
    "IF GOD DIDN'T WANT TO HELP AMERICA, THEN WE WOULD HAVE Hillary Clinton"!!
    "let them search you,touch you,violate your Rights,just don't be a dick!"~ cdc482
    "For Wales. Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world. But for Wales?"
    All my life I've been at the mercy of men just following orders... Never again!~Erik Lehnsherr
    There's nothing wrong with stopping people randomly, especially near bars, restaurants etc.~Velho

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by cdc482 View Post
    Show me a picture of a guy carrying a gun around in a shopping mall.
    I would rather post some pick of the police State in evidence in the small community I live in.
    Less than 20,000 people and very little crime (there never has been) and a growing multifaceted police presence.
    Passing by the Locks I saw "security" with 12ga riot guns. This is a very new development and has no reason. There have been NO incidents to justify it.

    Very disconcerting developments.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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